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46. If We Cannot Trust the System, Are We Anarchists?

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:30 PM

Jun 2013

I've heard that analogy in the past and it has a degree of validity when we consider our duly elected representatives voted for the Patriot Act overwhelmingly for nearly a decade.

Then I ask you: does our Congress truly represent the voice of the People? The final passage of the ACA made no mention of a public option. Background checks for gun buyers could not pass through the Senate because of a minority of senators objecting despite its popularity with the general public. There are countless examples of approved legislation that thwarts the will of the People.

Congressional legislation reflects the influence of dollars, not the votes of the People, and that phenomenon, alone, permits us to question the legitimacy of All legislation that compromises Constitutional Rights!

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All The Infrastructure A Tyrant Would Need, Courtesy Of Bush And Obama - TheAtlantic [View all] WillyT Jun 2013 OP

The terrorists won. (nt) NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #1

+ infinity. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #9

Yes They Did - Americans Should Be Getting Sick Of This - Orwell And Huxley Were Right cantbeserious Jun 2013 #20

Best statement on DU, ever. cliffordu Jun 2013 #21

Mainly cause we've grown to hate ourselves for our freedoms. villager Jun 2013 #26

Ya really gatta hand it to em. AAO Jun 2013 #30

Are the "terrorists" the real winners? roamer65 Jun 2013 #31

Well, those that "hate us for our freedoms" are having the last laugh. bvar22 Jun 2013 #65

Well, stop for a minute and think: If they "hate us for our freedoms..." KansDem Jun 2013 #89

Good one. Of course the so-called "freedom haters" should be attacking Norway, New Zealand, and byeya Jun 2013 #91

byeya Diclotican Jun 2013 #95

Yes they did. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #77

The terrorists won ...the day George Bush was elected. L0oniX Jun 2013 #84

Meet the Carnivore system ProSense Jun 2013 #2

k&r Matariki Jun 2013 #3

Cry, the beloved country. hedda_foil Jun 2013 #4

This is exactly correct! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #5

Yep... The Potential For Future Abuse, Is Far More Dangerous Than 9-11 Was... WillyT Jun 2013 #6

+ infinity BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #72

Yeah, that's the inconvenient truth. idwiyo Jun 2013 #7

Worse than J Edgar Hoover? Worse than Nixon? Worse than Dubya? Worse than Cheney? Say it isn't so. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #8

WillyTroll? You bet he will. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #10

Haven't You Been Locked Out Enough By Now ??? WillyT Jun 2013 #13

Well, he's been around much longer than you have burnodo Jun 2013 #14

WillyT's entire post was a quote from: bvar22 Jun 2013 #15

or their V for Vendetta avatar? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #19

*** ALERT *** usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Jun 2013 #40

The jury should be ashamed. woo me with science Jun 2013 #49

Couldn't agree with you more Matariki Jun 2013 #58

Another clown jury. Whodathunkit. L0oniX Jun 2013 #82

Verily Electric Monk Jun 2013 #76

Quite The Track Record... No ??? WillyT Jun 2013 #87

! dionysus Jun 2013 #24

You're lucky there are 3 gormless fools on DU who don't find your name calling objectionable. Matariki Jun 2013 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author brentspeak Jun 2013 #60

Do you truly think those who support the Democratic Party and its President are the disruptors here? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #96

3? Make it 7. bunnies Jun 2013 #97

Someone's hypocrisy knows no bounds. n/t flvegan Jun 2013 #64

Nice transparency page ya got going on there. L0oniX Jun 2013 #83

Well he did say he wanted to build infrastructure kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #11

I had a difficult time during the lost Bush decade. Watching our rights trampled on with very little rhett o rick Jun 2013 #12

The Goal Posts have been moved. bvar22 Jun 2013 #16

I tell you the apologists keep me guessing. On one hand Pres Obama is like a god and rhett o rick Jun 2013 #18

Great Point... WillyT Jun 2013 #23

It was all discounted by KoKo Jun 2013 #35

. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #36

It wasn't his fault. He was busy reaching across the aisle to play paddy cake with his enemies. L0oniX Jun 2013 #85

Recommend KoKo Jun 2013 #22

They do not - if they had that Bush would not have stepped down treestar Jun 2013 #25

"He had to" step down? But arent you curious as why he "had to" step down? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #39

IF they set it up then they would not have to step down treestar Jun 2013 #69

The natives were getting pretty restless in 2007 to the Ruling Elite rhett o rick Jun 2013 #74

Absolutely. This IS fascism, or certainly the infrastructure for it. woo me with science Jun 2013 #27

Or maybe it's a Jobs Program! kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #42

It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping! woo me with science Jun 2013 #43

Here's a couple quotes to go along with this meme: ReRe Jun 2013 #44

This was a kick in the gut DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #28

PO should have done the right thing from the beginning.... ReRe Jun 2013 #57

This is exactly how "Democrats" think!!! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #29

The Republicans are scheduled to Re-take the White House in 2016, bvar22 Jun 2013 #32

+1! snot Jun 2013 #62

downright scary, ain't it? stupidicus Jun 2013 #33

"In an interview with journalist Matt Lewis, Friedersdorf stated that he has right-leaning views" struggle4progress Jun 2013 #34

This is Bush apologia ProSense Jun 2013 #38

This stuff is washing over DU right now like a hog waste lagoon somewhere burst struggle4progress Jun 2013 #41

ACLU Ad: The President Lied to the American People and Broke the Law ProSense Jun 2013 #50

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #37

Oh my gosh!!! tblue Jun 2013 #63

yes, that is the real danger - at the moment the government is not going to use these resources Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #45

We already saw what happened with Occupy. woo me with science Jun 2013 #47

If We Cannot Trust the System, Are We Anarchists? mckara Jun 2013 #46

We are supposed to trust those who don't trust us. Get it? L0oniX Jun 2013 #86

K&R WillyT for great link to Atlantic article ReRe Jun 2013 #51

You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #53

BINGO! truebluegreen Jun 2013 #52

WaPo Misread Powerpoint- Story on Feds tapping directly into internet companies was wrong & rushed ProSense Jun 2013 #54

K&R Extremely important post. woo me with science Jun 2013 #55

K&R pscot Jun 2013 #56

Well, we have been warning for years nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #59

G'Night All WillyT Jun 2013 #61

Exactly. Nothing has been dismantled or made DirkGently Jun 2013 #66

I want to post this on FB: CrispyQ Jun 2013 #67

. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #68

K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #70

This isn't about Obama. It's about the bipartisan national security state. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #71

ours is a National Security State lhooq Jun 2013 #79

AND... cynzke Jun 2013 #73

As far as power over people and laws... I believe LESS IS MORE.... midnight Jun 2013 #75

THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2013 #78

Actually it's courtesy of Bill Gates and computer wonks everywhere. pnwmom Jun 2013 #80

Obama has become Bush lite... nradisic Jun 2013 #81

This is one of those important posts that everyone should read. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #88

kick woo me with science Jun 2013 #90

kick woo me with science Jun 2013 #92

These were powers that the repubs gave to Bush. Turbineguy Jun 2013 #93

Rec #101. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #94