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treestar

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12. Everything it does is not solely attributable to him.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jun 2013

Some people are using Obama and Government as complete synonyms.

Agreed! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #1
No more fine with it than turning over much of our military to private mercenaries... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #2
Or turning over the manufacturing of defense weapons to our potential enemies. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #61
..or turning over the prisons and schools. Moostache Jun 2013 #68
In a Corporatist Republic, who else would corporations trust to spy on everyone? kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #3
+1, the Democracy you learned about in school is a myth harun Jun 2013 #93
It create plausible deniability for the government. boston bean Jun 2013 #4
No, it created adaptability jeff47 Jun 2013 #29
It's not just the government. Banks, for example, LOVE the idea of disposable workers arcane1 Jun 2013 #52
Throw-away technology requires throw-away people? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #60
No, more like technology moves faster than the employment regulations. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #74
Employment, employees. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #75
some seem to have no problem with it G_j Jun 2013 #5
And then when it's determined it's not legal, here comes the immunity. boston bean Jun 2013 #8
Racket Texasgal Jun 2013 #22
"Some" have no problem with it because Obama told them what to think about it. morningfog Jun 2013 #21
It's all private. Security, Intel, War, hell, even the people who feed NightWatcher Jun 2013 #6
Nail on the head. timdog44 Jun 2013 #19
That is another excellent point. These massively wasteful, ineffective, unconstitutional policies usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #7
Remember, Obama is the president burnodo Jun 2013 #9
Everything it does is not solely attributable to him. treestar Jun 2013 #12
except for the good things burnodo Jun 2013 #33
You understand that part of the logic here is that privatization removes oversight: struggle4progress Jun 2013 #56
Did you just now find this out? How can that possibly be? George H. W. Bush DevonRex Jun 2013 #10
I actually do know all that history, I'm 63 years old, I lived through it. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #14
Ok. DevonRex Jun 2013 #51
I really appreciate hearing of your personal experience of this. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #53
Then there is also the situation that regardless of whether this PRISM is truedelphi Jun 2013 #137
The Constitution is only going to work if we INSIST on it. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #138
Yep...they just hired an actor to play the roll. zeemike Jun 2013 #20
^Post of the Day^ Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #36
Actually, every president since... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #100
Can you imagine; greiner3 Jun 2013 #81
The Bush administration contracted all sorts of things out treestar Jun 2013 #11
You remember Christopher Boyce? roamer65 Jun 2013 #13
Yes, and McDonnell Douglas has done very well all these years. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #27
McDonnell Douglas? SCVDem Jun 2013 #35
Sorry, you're correct. However, they didn't exactly die, they merged with Boeing. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #42
Thx. I'll give it a read. roamer65 Jun 2013 #50
Considering that I "wronged" some RWers years ago and they decided to ruin my life . . . siligut Jun 2013 #15
What did you do? 7962 Jun 2013 #41
I worked for an HMO and to save money they were misdiagnosing heart attacks siligut Jun 2013 #44
Lets not forget the rastaone Jun 2013 #16
Perhaps without the private contractors SCVDem Jun 2013 #17
We might not even have this overbearing intrusion into our privacy. Kablooie Jun 2013 #28
Bingo! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #31
I approve of his leaks, as I approve of casting light onto wrongs anywhere. mbperrin Jun 2013 #18
Amen nradisic Jun 2013 #23
A subsidary of the Carlyle Group RainDog Jun 2013 #24
Good point Kablooie Jun 2013 #25
Constitutional Rights...For Sale! Discounts given for campaign contributions! Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #26
Monsanto Turns To Blackwater For Increased Security, Intelligence And ‘Infiltrate Activist Groups’ G_j Jun 2013 #30
Totally agree WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #32
+1,000 malaise Jun 2013 #34
Republicans like it that way. gulliver Jun 2013 #37
It is spelled nineteen50 Jun 2013 #38
And it's totally controlled by The Carlyle Group! Kablooie Jun 2013 #39
OMFG grasswire Jun 2013 #65
Poppy still gets intelligence briefings tblue Jun 2013 #91
Profits first! moondust Jun 2013 #40
Private eyes, they're watching you... Blue Owl Jun 2013 #43
Indefensible BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #45
Halliburton will be in there somewhere. Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #46
Everything is for sale when Capitalism is the real God SHRED Jun 2013 #47
We are paying a corporation to spy on us SHRED Jun 2013 #48
Well said! Ain't capitalism great? scarletwoman Jun 2013 #55
And they no doubt sell our info for more profit marshall Jun 2013 #49
K&R suffragette Jun 2013 #54
K&R... midnight Jun 2013 #57
I suspected when this first broke that the "Private Contractors" were involved. KoKo Jun 2013 #58
Exactly! Well said! (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #59
Maybe we should just outsource our government to Halliburton. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #62
Exactly, civilians not even sworn government employees... Historic NY Jun 2013 #63
Loyalty to the Bottom Line, not to democracy. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #64
It just keeps getting uglier Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #66
That bothers me as well davidpdx Jun 2013 #67
Seriously!!!@!!@!! ReRe Jun 2013 #69
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #70
Thanks! (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #71
Mining this data gives total control over heading off any problems glinda Jun 2013 #72
Keeping the War on Terror going most certainly serves their interests! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #73
It is even more than that. It is where you shop, what you buy, what you see.... glinda Jun 2013 #118
But then our govt is pretty much a private contractor at this point. cui bono Jun 2013 #76
I share your rage and I am furious that nit-pickers are still moaning about whether Swagman Jun 2013 #77
Classic misdirection - "Look over there!" scarletwoman Jun 2013 #109
In the end we are going to find out that is not and never was about terror, it is all about money. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #78
It's not for OUR security, it's for control by the Overclass. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #110
Excellent point. Thanks. Zorra Jun 2013 #79
Thank you, back! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #111
K & R AzDar Jun 2013 #80
I see; greiner3 Jun 2013 #82
I would hazard a guess that I and those other OPs are on "ignore". scarletwoman Jun 2013 #83
K&R. myrna minx Jun 2013 #84
Thanks! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #85
It's good to see you, friend. myrna minx Jun 2013 #102
It always gladdens my heart to see you! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #107
It gladdens my heart to see you too! myrna minx Jun 2013 #143
"meeeeehhhh, you're PARANOID...." sibelian Jun 2013 #86
"Grotesque" is an excellent word for it! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #112
Most of those contractors... atreides1 Jun 2013 #87
Sure, nothing but a big fat contract. And a vested interested to continue to profit from scarletwoman Jun 2013 #113
Thanks for bringing this up DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #88
There's a great explanation of how this works, here: scarletwoman Jun 2013 #114
Excellent point! kentuck Jun 2013 #89
It's set up to fail US. It's set up to kill our democracy. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #115
K&R Hell no I don't think its fine. Feel like all I ever talk about is how we are being sold out raouldukelives Jun 2013 #90
We HAVE to talk about how we're being sold out. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #116
Do you remember the devil Gun Lobby we have talked about so much of late........... wandy Jun 2013 #92
Well, since the people our elected officials actually represent are the Oligarchs, scarletwoman Jun 2013 #119
The problem identified. Here, and in many other places. wandy Jun 2013 #121
Thank you for putting the situation into words, scarletwoman. Octafish Jun 2013 #94
If there's any hope of saving democracy in this country, it will only happen when enough scarletwoman Jun 2013 #120
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #95
And we are ctsnowman Jun 2013 #96
Wow! Great point! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #122
Now THIS is a good point N/T War Horse Jun 2013 #97
Thanks! (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #124
absolutely-- plus they are undoubtedly overcharging the govt and ripping us off NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #98
Oh, not to worry. The government has PLENTY of money to spend on the National Security State. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #125
sadly, that is so true NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #144
Hear Hear. That point is being lost. Back in the 70s my Dad was outraged how the snagglepuss Jun 2013 #99
"These private spying companies have a vested interest in manipulating perceptions so best serve scarletwoman Jun 2013 #126
NOW WE'RE TALKING! hedgehog Jun 2013 #101
Thank you! (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #127
You got a helluva a point scarletwoman. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #103
Thanks for the feedback! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #129
Agree 100 percent on Private Contractors emulatorloo Jun 2013 #104
It's intolerable, imho. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #130
well said questionseverything Jun 2013 #105
Thank you so much for the links! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #131
Hey SW !!! - Did You Catch THIS: WillyT Jun 2013 #106
Wow! Thanks! Great piece! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #132
Very true Marrah_G Jun 2013 #108
WAY fucked up! scarletwoman Jun 2013 #133
This I agree is a problem. DCBob Jun 2013 #117
Are you so sure that contractors are "less expensive"? scarletwoman Jun 2013 #123
Generally speaking, they are... DCBob Jun 2013 #128
Sure, because a contractor making $1.3 billion in profits will just go quietly, scarletwoman Jun 2013 #136
some have a "stranglehold".. the vast majority do not. DCBob Jun 2013 #139
We're all Germans now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #134
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #135
In a word or perhaps two. timdog44 Jun 2013 #140
Equally troubling is the growing list of congress people who voted for it but claim to not know ecstatic Jun 2013 #141
Thank you, you speak for me. -nt- b.durruti Jun 2013 #142
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