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IdaBriggs

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46. One who wants a DISCUSSION without drama.

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 10:24 PM

Jun 2013

A theoretical one, with thoughtful people adding commentary about the topic.

You are free to ignore either the thread or me if you do not feel you have anything to add other than commentary about my editing choices.

Debates about crime and punishment can be entertaining - see the "Law & Order" television franchises, and any of the dozen police/lawyer books/movies/television shows, hence since this is a theoretical discussion with no impact in the real world, I used the popcorn smiley to show that it should not be taken too seriously, but as a rhetorical indulgence.

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Discussion: Should Rape be a Capital Crime? [View all] IdaBriggs Jun 2013 OP

No. Historically, it was the 'legal' basis for lynching. Read Coker v. Georgia and Kennedy v. msanthrope Jun 2013 #1

In a rarity, I fully agree. morningfog Jun 2013 #4

I'm not a complete crypto-fascist, you know! nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #7

Is your opinion "no death penalty EVER" or just not for rape? IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #10

And "To Kill A Mockingbird". KamaAina Jun 2013 #22

+1000 Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #53

I believe the Supreme Court already said that it can't be davidn3600 Jun 2013 #2

I am a victim and no. MindPilot Jun 2013 #3

I am another victim, and I say yes. n/t RebelOne Jun 2013 #15

you realize the rapist would have had nothing to lose killing you? markiv Jun 2013 #31

You realize that rapists already kill victims to keep them quiet, right? Gormy Cuss Jun 2013 #38

It is as most violent crimes rape is an irrational act so deterrents don't mean a lot MindPilot Jun 2013 #42

Rapists very rarely kill their victims. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #50

But some do kill even in states where the DP is still the law for murder. Gormy Cuss Jun 2013 #61

I wasn't arguing for the death penalty- Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #66

I'm well aware of rape statistics. Gormy Cuss Jun 2013 #72

I was a dumb 14-year-old at the time. RebelOne Jun 2013 #79

i'm sorry this happened to you markiv Jun 2013 #80

No, what would deter the rapist from murdering his victim so she could never tell.. angstlessk Jun 2013 #5

Are you saying that "low level punishment" (if any) is keeping victims alive? IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #8

Indeed I am..though "low level punishment" is not what I said angstlessk Jun 2013 #13

bingo - totally common sense answer nt markiv Jun 2013 #29

By that logic... Pelican Jun 2013 #71

You do not think a person would not murder a person whom they just raped angstlessk Jun 2013 #75

First, that is a lot of "nots" Pelican Jun 2013 #76

Popcorning your own thread is in poor taste (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #6

Actually pipi_k Jun 2013 #40

Or attempting to start a discussion on a discussion board. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #44

With all due respect GObamaGO Jun 2013 #47

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #69

"Those f*ckers stay in your head..." alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #9

If someone brutally raped a loved one of mine, cliffordu Jun 2013 #11

and then you would deservedly spend your days rotting in prison. I would applaud cali Jun 2013 #14

In which case said rapist would likely just kill the victim AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #73

I anti-death penalty period, no exceptions. ever cali Jun 2013 #12

No crime should be a capital crime. DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #16

No. Orrex Jun 2013 #17

No capital crimes.- no death penalty. Period. nt s-cubed Jun 2013 #18

No death penalty, at all. Tien1985 Jun 2013 #19

There is a lot of nuance to be explored in this thread. lapislzi Jun 2013 #20

No lunatica Jun 2013 #21

No. Only suspected terrorists and their families should face this. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #23

No, the death penalty should never be used LittleBlue Jun 2013 #24

Yes. Rex Jun 2013 #25

Anti death penalty PERIOD FrodosPet Jun 2013 #26

YES because it's a life sentence Politicalboi Jun 2013 #27

and the additional penalty for silencing the victim with death would be.....? markiv Jun 2013 #28

No, that is not justice, the victim is still alive. n/t Ligyron Jun 2013 #30

No. I am anti-death penalty, period. PDJane Jun 2013 #32

No. rrneck Jun 2013 #33

What kind of person starts an OP about rape and adds a popcorn smiley at the bottom of it? Jamastiene Jun 2013 #34

One who wants a DISCUSSION without drama. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #46

+1. It is disturbing. mentalsolstice Jun 2013 #82

Let me first say your popcorn... one_voice Jun 2013 #35

Anti-death penalty LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #36

I oppose capital punishment in general. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #37

No. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #39

Like a few pipi_k Jun 2013 #41

No cap. punishment for any crime... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #43

Statistically, most appear to not be reported, IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #45

I don't take "still alive" and "can recover from it" Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #52

When 97% of rapists spend 0 time in jail, 54% of victims don't report -- IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #63

Rape culture is exactly what it is Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #65

No justice. No vengeance. No consequences. Shocking results. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #68

No. Iggo Jun 2013 #48

No. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #49

I think it should be eligible for a life sentence, in some cases, particularly if the victim nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #51

I'm anti-DP wickerwoman Jun 2013 #54

Nothing should be a capital crime... (nt) petronius Jun 2013 #55

Generally anti-DP here. Prefer to decrease application of DP. struggle4progress Jun 2013 #56

I have to say yes, There are crimes society should end someone for. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #57

Yes. If you're saying punishable with the death penalty, I think some forms of rape should be Number23 Jun 2013 #58

Not at all. David__77 Jun 2013 #59

MORE: Should a victim kill a rapist during an attack? Or immediately thereafter? IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #60

It is just about the worst crime there is. But, no DP, period. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #62

I don't believe in the death penalty E_A_ Jun 2013 #64

Which would make death penalty issues even more challenging, eh? IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #70

When I was a teen the argument was against because an 18 year old could have consentual sex with jwirr Jun 2013 #67

No treestar Jun 2013 #74

I'm anti-death penalty in all cases Scootaloo Jun 2013 #77

I've often advocated for violent rape to be a capital crime. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #78

No. kiva Jun 2013 #81