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Atman

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24. Huh?

Reply to JW2020 (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 09:43 AM

Jun 2013

Where did I say I was "fine" with being portrayed as a drunken Irish leprechaun? (Monkey? Where did that come from?) I'm pointing out the hypocrisy and lunacy of the entire "mascot" thing. Notre Dame has millions of dollars invested in their "brand," as does the "Redskins" franchise. I'm not saying it's right. I'm certainly not endorsing it. I'm just acknowledging that once again, Americans' priorities are directed toward "protecting" anyone who isn't of white European descent from having their feelings hurt. Maybe it's historical guilt for having plundered the North American continent. But, again...soon we'll just name teams The Fluffy Kitties or The Cute Baby Animals. But I'm sure SOMEONE will still be offended.

BTW, I think it's hysterical that anyone who would call an Irishman "not white." Although, in the summer we're usually pink and/or freckled.

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Would "Washington Darkskins" or "Atlanta CottonPickers" be acceptable? [View all] JW2020 Jun 2013 OP

re: think Boston Celtics (mascot) is offensive as well hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1

There was a great April Fools story on NPR several years ago... Atman Jun 2013 #70

ha ha ha! hlthe2b Jun 2013 #74

Being partly of Scandinavian descent Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2013 #80

People are stupid Flashmann Jun 2013 #83

The traditional mispronunciation and the fact that Celtic is not derogatory Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #110

Robstown, TX 4Q2u2 Jun 2013 #2

yep arely staircase Jun 2013 #43

If they had millions of customers, it would be. Iggo Jun 2013 #3

just to be clear datasuspect Jun 2013 #4

They only changed the name to "Redskins" when they moved to Fenway Recursion Jun 2013 #5

Here's more on that from Rawstory: Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #8

That should be an OP if it isn't already. redqueen Jun 2013 #31

Seconded Recursion Jun 2013 #93

Thanks for that malaise Jun 2013 #85

Redskins is a derogatory term (and far more offensive than Chiefs or Braves) Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #6

K&R Jamastiene Jun 2013 #7

Only Native Americans should be responsible for judging what the name stands for. tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #9

OK. In a survey, 83% of Native Americans were fine with the name. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #21

That doesn't refer specifically to "Redskins"... tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #22

That's my personal experience as well. Most Indians I know don't give a shit about it. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #36

many of my indian friends have embraced the name frylock Jun 2013 #60

Most of the Native Americans I've spoken with have a problem with "Redskins" Xithras Jun 2013 #37

No. Iggo Jun 2013 #111

No, but "Redskins" is. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #10

The "Washington Irrelevants for 22 Seasons"? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #11

Why you gotta break balls? Recursion Jun 2013 #12

Guess you have to settle for an offensive name kudzu22 Jun 2013 #44

How many times will RG3 blow out his knees before having to retire at age 25? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #75

At least once more (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #78

Once we get an offensive line, we'll be great. Flashmann Jun 2013 #87

+1 arely staircase Jun 2013 #46

The feelings are complex? No. If it's offensive to the group it refers to, it should be changed. reformist2 Jun 2013 #13

Then I guess we need to eliminate 90% of DU forums Atman Jun 2013 #16

How is that voted on? treestar Jun 2013 #41

The Redskins are not going to change their name Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #14

Yet no one seems to have a problem with the "Fighting Irish" Atman Jun 2013 #15

Is this offensive to you? JW2020 Jun 2013 #17

What if I said it was? Atman Jun 2013 #19

So you are fine as being portrayed as a monkey. JW2020 Jun 2013 #20

Huh? Atman Jun 2013 #24

SOMEONE will still be offended. Flashmann Jun 2013 #33

Were you offended by the DU'er who went by the name "Drunken Irishman"?? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #76

No. Atman Jun 2013 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #18

I should alert on you... Atman Jun 2013 #26

I've had that happen three times Flashmann Jun 2013 #28

It doesn't happen to me as much anymore because... Atman Jun 2013 #30

I once got a post hidden Jenoch Jun 2013 #32

because of a typo Flashmann Jun 2013 #34

Watch out -- I'm keeping an eye on you now!! CokeMachine Jun 2013 #88

That's HALF offensive! Atman Jun 2013 #95

Only half??? CokeMachine Jun 2013 #96

You mean like the Half-ass U. SEMI-noles? Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #112

"Being Irish, I guess I should resent the Notre Dame nickname, "The Fighting Irish." arely staircase Jun 2013 #47

I, uh...I... Atman Jun 2013 #64

Remember I'm watching you!! CokeMachine Jun 2013 #90

Redskins" is offensive. Flashmann Jun 2013 #23

I'm also boycotting redskin peanuts! Atman Jun 2013 #25

hey here is a solution arely staircase Jun 2013 #48

There you go! Atman Jun 2013 #66

BRILLIANT! Atman Jun 2013 #94

In case you forgot -- I'm still watching you!! CokeMachine Jun 2013 #91

This is what it's all about - if it's offensive to Native Americans, it should go. If not, it can reformist2 Jun 2013 #27

I believe it is not... Flashmann Jun 2013 #29

are Apache helicopters still around? Whisp Jun 2013 #35

Don't know if pipi_k Jun 2013 #38

on the surface maybe Whisp Jun 2013 #69

Apache helicoptors Jenoch Jun 2013 #39

Chomsky was pointing out hamster Jun 2013 #102

That was it. It's been so long. Thank you. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #107

You're welcome hamster Jun 2013 #115

I don't see why they go out of their way to be insulted treestar Jun 2013 #40

Did you see this link from post #8? SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #50

That's even weirder treestar Jun 2013 #63

None of the names bother me... SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #67

My pet peeve is names like Veteran's Stadium treestar Jun 2013 #71

I think Miami Bluehairs has a nice ring to it. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #42

How about the Miami Q Tips? DreamGypsy Jun 2013 #59

It's an offensive name and I consider anyone who defends it to be racist. forestpath Jun 2013 #45

I consider anyone who defends it to be racist. Flashmann Jun 2013 #53

Wow, so defensive. forestpath Jun 2013 #55

No not really Flashmann Jun 2013 #58

I consider anyone who makes statements like that to be stupid. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #56

I don't see anything wrong with it LittleBlue Jun 2013 #49

mascot mania by jello biafra arely staircase Jun 2013 #51

Great song. Haven't heard it. Took me forever to find the album... DreamGypsy Jun 2013 #61

i saw them on that tour back in the 90s arely staircase Jun 2013 #62

How about...The Washington Eavesdroppers? nt clarice Jun 2013 #52

Of course its offensive LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #54

But Notre Dame's "Fighting Irish" is not? Atman Jun 2013 #65

Whose saying its not? (nt) LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #73

Who is saying it is? Atman Jun 2013 #97

There are native american groups who explicitly state they are offened LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #98

That's ridiculous. Atman Jun 2013 #100

Are you saying that whenever someone says something disparaging about another minority LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #114

Show me where the Irish face systematic oppression Zoeisright Jun 2013 #106

Thank you for completely missing the point. Atman Jun 2013 #108

Washington Partisans eom Purrfessor Jun 2013 #57

complex? burnodo Jun 2013 #68

The term "redskins" also was a term for bloody scalps alphafemale Jun 2013 #72

Funny, how there aren't teams called The Navajo Pale Skins or The Iroquois Round Eyes. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #77

You still care about pro sports? One of the first things that needs to GO! n/t dogknob Jun 2013 #79

In Atlanta, up until early 1960s, the minor league team was called the CRACKERS. Hoyt Jun 2013 #82

Ya know libodem Jun 2013 #84

Let's just hope RGIII is OK'd to play. ileus Jun 2013 #86

great documentary on this La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #89

Frank Luntz tackles Redskins name issue MrScorpio Jun 2013 #92

Redskins is better than a name like the Washington Senators. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2013 #99

Washington GridLock liberal N proud Jun 2013 #101

Roger Goodell is a friggin' moron, news at 11 Arkana Jun 2013 #103

I think one need only look at the decimation, the near-extinction, the forced relocations LanternWaste Jun 2013 #104

"Redskins" in Washington makes as much sense as "Jazz" in Utah rurallib Jun 2013 #105

I like it! Or how about "The Carpetbaggers?" Atman Jun 2013 #109

I would prefer the Washington Weenies and Atlanta Fluffies. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #113