How many here feel "meh" about Hilary Clinton in 2016?

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72. I agree,

Obama has been very unwilling to stand up to his political opponents, or even to recognize them as such. I think that is more a result of his personality and beliefs--among them the idea that he himself can bridge any divide, and make a deal. He has been very slow to let go of that. And I think his political goals are more in the center-right range than many of us are willing to accept. He was talking about Raygun as a transformational figure, and about his own desire for a Grand Bargain even before being elected in '08.

Warren doesn't seem to be having the same difficulties, right from the beginning. In fact, she has been totally unlike other new Senators who are expected to sit down and be quiet and learn the "rules" before doing anything. She has been vocal and up-front about who and what must be resisted. In that regard, she may indeed not be suited for the Senate, the World's Greatest Deliberative Body (just ask them), which seems to place collegiality above actually getting anything done.