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treestar

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50. The knowingly and intelligently requirement

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 01:16 PM

Jun 2013

is going to be tough to prove for the case in the OP. Generally it is probably a bear, but the lead singer of the band, come on, is quite unlikely to be knowingly in on drug dealing. Everyone "knows" there are drug dealers there but not in the sense the statute seems to require. Ticket-master would be even harder to have a case on - there's no way they are in on the drug deals as they don't have to be to make a buck.

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Unprecedented: Musician Goes To Prison Because His Fans Sell Drugs To One Another [View all] Billy Pilgrim Jun 2013 OP

Kick. PDJane Jun 2013 #1

The Police State is out of control... GReedDiamond Jun 2013 #2

Unless he sings a song called, "Let's all sell drugs at my camp ground," this makes no sense. n/t Ian David Jun 2013 #3

makes perfect sense if you think about it booley Jun 2013 #21

You have a point there. A few points. nt raccoon Jun 2013 #32

What the Flying F**k? marmar Jun 2013 #4

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #5

Michigan did the same thing with rainbow farms sigmasix Jun 2013 #6

That is absolutely terrible. Billy Pilgrim Jun 2013 #9

Welcome to DU, Billy Pilgrim! calimary Jun 2013 #18

Reminds me of the Rainbow Farms murders. Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #7

That makes me so freaking mad. Billy Pilgrim Jun 2013 #10

The story was bumped from the news 7 days later...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #11

Welcome to DU, Jesus Malverde! calimary Jun 2013 #19

Kick burnodo Jun 2013 #8

The crack house law has also been used against rave promoters starroute Jun 2013 #12

I guess I was wrong in the use of the word "unprecedented." Billy Pilgrim Jun 2013 #13

How about "outrageous" then? Or even "perverted"? (n/t) starroute Jun 2013 #14

Let's arrest everyone who's attended a Willie Nelson concert while we're at it. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #15

this was a federal enforcement Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #16

Crap! calimary Jun 2013 #17

Um..his own security guards were selling drugs and he was apparently getting a cut. msanthrope Jun 2013 #20

I have not found anything to substantiate that claim. Billy Pilgrim Jun 2013 #22

Read your own source. The feds bought from a security guard, and your perp was msanthrope Jun 2013 #39

No. He made money off the festival which they said was because of the drug use. dkf Jun 2013 #27

Have you seen the plea agreement? If you haven't, then why would you take the word of msanthrope Jun 2013 #40

Why do you assume they didn't see a copy of a doc when they wrote this article? dkf Jun 2013 #47

I'll take defense of the indefensible for 200 Alec. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #34

I think the sale of methadone, X, shrooms is indefensible. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #41

Between consenting adults? tritsofme Jun 2013 #43

Yes. There are some drugs that should be regulated. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #44

Methadone? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #45

And you should be the one to decide which drugs? SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #49

I've had clients go to jail for their methadone sales/buys. It is a 'street drug'.... msanthrope Jun 2013 #51

K&R Jamastiene Jun 2013 #23

If I ever want to get away with a crime Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #24

That article does not say what the law was exactly treestar Jun 2013 #25

'rogue event promoters' says it all. i bet people are selling and using drugs at mainstream HiPointDem Jun 2013 #42

The knowingly and intelligently requirement treestar Jun 2013 #50

Overreach. It's so easy to misuse the law if you are so inclined. dkf Jun 2013 #26

I went to their website... they are really good klyon Jun 2013 #28

Wasn't there a story some months ago about a motel owner being busted SwissTony Jun 2013 #29

Next you'll be telling me some were committing adultery in the rooms Dragonfli Jun 2013 #31

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #30

Pot in some form is legal in 12 states. Stop the Pot Wars NightWatcher Jun 2013 #33

Tell my nephew to get the fuck out of St. Louis. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #35

So rich high rise building owners can be jailed for leasing million $ flats to drug dealers? L0oniX Jun 2013 #36

Kick burnodo Jun 2013 #37

Well, the law is terrible, but only in the sense that . . . MrModerate Jun 2013 #38

This is ridiculous, but the title seems inaccurate. MadrasT Jun 2013 #46

kick Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #48