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110. No....he's not

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 08:23 PM

Jun 2013

Having an issue with the way things are conducted in the government is one thing, but leaking such sensitive information, and then fleeing to another country does NOT make him a hero...Plain and simple.

As Bob Schieffer said this morning, REAL heroes are people like Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks, who stood up when they saw injustices, but did so in a way where they didn't cower when faced with consequences....Not people like Snowden who ran away and is in hiding like he is some teenager that just robbed a gas station.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] darkangel218 Jun 2013 OP

Nonsense. He made a Democrat look bad. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #1

I can see your invisible sarcasm tag. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #2

Yup NaturalCommunist Jun 2013 #3

Can we have a serious discussion? Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #23

Its sarcasm, like calling Snowden a 'hero'. railsback Jun 2013 #34

CBS's Bob Schiefer just denounced Snowden on Face the Nation markiv Jun 2013 #4

Bob Schieffer? mimi85 Jun 2013 #41

The Powers that be do not tolerate rogue agents - wundermaus Jun 2013 #5

"rogue" agents you mean marions ghost Jun 2013 #24

Yes... Thank you for the correction. wundermaus Jun 2013 #31

1 - why should they treestar Jun 2013 #58

Why? Because evil works in the dark and light just pisses it off. wundermaus Jun 2013 #102

How can you possible mention such terrible things treestar Jun 2013 #106

Edward Snowden is a coward and a liar. ProSense Jun 2013 #6

We can disagree on the veracity of his claims... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #7

Um...he's hiding in a foreign country? baldguy Jun 2013 #18

Can you blame him? We've seen how Bradley Manning has been treated... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #19

So being a coward is a plus, now? baldguy Jun 2013 #21

Self-preservation is hardly cowardly... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #25

oh brother marions ghost Jun 2013 #26

lot's of brave men and women have sought shelter in other countries throughout history usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #66

Your shtick is well known. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #8

So is yours. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #9

Sick post. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #10

Wow, ProSense Jun 2013 #12

Lol you said you dont post links! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #14

That's not what I said, but ProSense Jun 2013 #17

Im not confused at all. I dont have an agenda. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #39

lol Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #15

Who are you to tell me where to take ",my personal issues"??? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #16

What? Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #20

Circles? why, cuz i dont agree with you? lmao!!!! nt darkangel218 Jun 2013 #65

I don't think coffee will help. zappaman Jun 2013 #95

beer Kali Jun 2013 #32

I work nights, morning is everyone elses evening. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #53

You know what is really lame? Kali Jun 2013 #62

+100 zappaman Jun 2013 #84

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #93

Upon reading the OP, I just knew she'd have at least one post hidden somewhere down-thread Electric Monk Jun 2013 #98

IBTATAP FSogol Jun 2013 #100

Here it is again, same subject line bike man Jun 2013 #107

Or the next GBCW...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #108

Why do clowns ProSense Jun 2013 #11

You link pretty much all your other posts. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #13

you are out of your element, Donny. give it up. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #40

How do you deem somwone out of their element?? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #44

actually, we are all out of our element here. Whisp Jun 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jun 2013 #48

BWAHAHHA!! Kali Jun 2013 #70

WTF usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #72

maybe you haven't been here long enough Kali Jun 2013 #78

So what if i self delete?? it means nothing!! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #79

it's not the self-deletes in and of themselves Kali Jun 2013 #85

Incohernt rants/? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #88

I know plenty of people not born here Kali Jun 2013 #90

Im not fucking drunk, nor have i had one single drink when posting this! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #91

+1000! zappaman Jun 2013 #94

orly? sad-cafe Jun 2013 #111

I strongly disagree, and so do many others much more knowledgable than I but usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #71

He deserves jail Vietnameravet Jun 2013 #28

To totalitarians, maybe... to most DUers he's a Patriot usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #63

Why, because he exposed your idol as a constitution shredder? Ter Jun 2013 #99

Sorry, I think that's to be determined. cali Jun 2013 #22

Whatever lol darkangel218 Jun 2013 #37

It will go into the 'self deleted' file, with so many others. nt bike man Jun 2013 #45

He Did All Of Us A Big Favor In Bringing This Surveillance Travesty To Our Collective Attention cantbeserious Jun 2013 #27

And what if his leaks lead to a successful terrorist attack? Vietnameravet Jun 2013 #29

The Point Has Been Made By Experts That The Only People That Did Not Know Was American Citizens cantbeserious Jun 2013 #30

If you are soo stupid that you penndragon69 Jun 2013 #35

Ad Hominen Attack - Against The DU TOS cantbeserious Jun 2013 #38

been around since forever. Whisp Jun 2013 #42

Revealing HOW or govt. gathers information penndragon69 Jun 2013 #33

No. Snowden is a 'hero'. railsback Jun 2013 #36

He's a criminal. I doubt you keep up the worship once China has had their way with him. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #43

Lmao!!! china has not had not they wlll have " their way with him" darkangel218 Jun 2013 #46

type more slowly. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #50

Lol. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #61

Its a complex case. It is not black or white. You are dealing with spies. kentuck Jun 2013 #49

This easily deserves to be its own OP. Simply brilliant and HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #81

You are too kind. kentuck Jun 2013 #87

I happen to love teaching by parable and historical analogue, because HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #96

I agree with your wife. kentuck Jun 2013 #101

the only people he "told anything" is the Chinese... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #51

Really? so his intwrviwes with the media didnt exist?????/ darkangel218 Jun 2013 #55

But it was JUST talk VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #56

Telling the TRUTH, even though he lost everything and eveeyone he ever known , is "just talk"??? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #64

How do you know he is telling the truth... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #69

so he decides to help a government demonsterably worse than the ours on its worst day? arely staircase Jun 2013 #52

How to devalue the word "Hero" intaglio Jun 2013 #54

Up until Snowden I did not know our first and 4th amedment meant nothing. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #59

This has little to do with the 4th Amendment intaglio Jun 2013 #75

It goes back even before 2007 to atleast 1997 when Carnivore was implemented so cstanleytech Jun 2013 #76

Agreed, not a hero and not a traitor intaglio Jun 2013 #77

" both sides are indulging." Of course they are however its still legally treason to reveal it if cstanleytech Jun 2013 #80

If I was a conspiracy theorist intaglio Jun 2013 #97

Doubling down on that is just too much treestar Jun 2013 #57

I lived in socialist/dictatorialship east europe darkangel218 Jun 2013 #60

Then give us some details treestar Jun 2013 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jun 2013 #73

We have a bill of rights treestar Jun 2013 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jun 2013 #92

I went to do a workout treestar Jun 2013 #105

K&R JoeyT Jun 2013 #68

Kick this Zero to the curb and get a hero Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #74

Good Comedy HangOnKids Jun 2013 #103

I don't view him as a hero. Beacool Jun 2013 #82

That's not my definition of a hero. More like a self serving human being who doesn't think much of demosincebirth Jun 2013 #83

Nope. zappaman Jun 2013 #86

Yes, very CLOSE. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #89

No...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #109

No....he's not PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #110

Thee guy appears to have fabricated many aspects of his job and access level. bluestate10 Jun 2013 #112