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In reply to the discussion: Bravo, Mr. Snowden !!! [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The question is whether the intelligence services are spying on American citizens without specific probable cause. Some want badly to believe they arent. I think it's faith. Others arent sure and want to investigate further and hold off on the punishment of Snowden until we get the facts. And some believe that the spy agencies will push the line as far as they can without much oversight and with an unlimited budget and are most likely spying on us.
This doesnt make sense to me: "I don't need to like Clapper or like his political views to believe Clapper didn't knowingly lie." His political views are Republican which means he believes the ends justify the means. It means he will lie if he thinks you can't handle the truth. How can you forget the lies the REpublicans told us during the Bush admin. The same players are still in the same jobs.