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145. I know exactly what you're talking about because my 12-yr old granddaughter chooses to dress

Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:24 PM

Jun 2013

that way. She now wears a girls sz 14 but keeps squeezing into the size 10 jeans I haven't cleaned out of her closet, and caught her wearing a tube top to school! This dispite the talks we've had and morning inspection. She starts middle school in September and I am actually for the first time ever so glad she has to wear uniforms! Some may argue all they want that "it shouldn't matter what a girl wears". It's true it doesn't give anyone permission to get ideas or leer, but IT FREAKIN HAPPENS so get over it. A mature man, especially one who has daughters, knows that kind of clothing is just wrong on a prepubescent girl. We do NOT live in a magical rosy world so KIDS must protect themselves, girls and boys. I was always as cautious with my son and grandsons as with the girls.

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Moms: Please Don't Do This. [View all] MineralMan Jun 2013 OP

I've also got a story like that leftynyc Jun 2013 #1

+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #2

Sixteen-year-olds going to the prom MineralMan Jun 2013 #4

OTOH - while it's reasonable to wear comfortable clothing on a plane, most hedgehog Jun 2013 #8

I wear casual clothing all the time. About the most I ever MineralMan Jun 2013 #13

All the other girls (the seniors) leftynyc Jun 2013 #16

Sadly, some moms really can't tell the difference Warpy Jun 2013 #155

There was a girl like that at my son's prom this year (not his date). A "barely there" dress. Drahthaardogs Jun 2013 #238

Some of those lacy outfits actually have a nude colored lining. Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #159

Yes, we looked for that leftynyc Jun 2013 #164

Be prepared for a flaming - odds are that someone will accuse you of being a pedophile! hedgehog Jun 2013 #3

I can't imagine why. My wife and I moved to different seats. MineralMan Jun 2013 #5

But you noticed that a twelve year old who was dressed provocatively, hedgehog Jun 2013 #7

I notice everyone around me in public places. MineralMan Jun 2013 #10

I'm with Buzz Click below - hedgehog Jun 2013 #14

who would not notice? RILib Jun 2013 #203

What "scene" was being made? uppityperson Jun 2013 #31

Why were you uncomfortable? So much so that you had to move? morningfog Jun 2013 #39

I found it annoying. So I moved. MineralMan Jun 2013 #42

I don't know why you moved, that's why I asked. You said because you were uncomfortable. morningfog Jun 2013 #50

Being annoyed makes me uncomfortable. MineralMan Jun 2013 #56

I guess I just don't get it. I've never looked at how a little girl morningfog Jun 2013 #62

OK. We react differently, then. MineralMan Jun 2013 #63

Correction: you react. I don't. morningfog Jun 2013 #64

I object to the sexualization of children. MineralMan Jun 2013 #65

Ah, I see now. You sexualized based how they morningfog Jun 2013 #68

no - clothing actually can sexualize a person by emphazing body parts- and the abundance of skin bettyellen Jun 2013 #77

Are you 12? morningfog Jun 2013 #79

No, but I have worked with kids as models in NYC, and it did bother me the way some kids were bettyellen Jun 2013 #85

+1 Context matters. n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #186

the truth is, fucked up people will (correctly) see these girls as having less supervision or bettyellen Jun 2013 #231

The problem is that there are strangers Ilsa Jun 2013 #90

I whole heartedly disagree. morningfog Jun 2013 #95

+1 redqueen Jun 2013 #97

Here: Ilsa Jun 2013 #99

I pick my battles elehhhhna Jun 2013 #124

Very true. We can only hope that Ilsa Jun 2013 #130

Yep. And that's why the revealing clothes bother me. elehhhhna Jun 2013 #133

So there is no difference between a 12 year old and someone in their hedgehog Jun 2013 #165

In what they choose to wear? morningfog Jun 2013 #174

So -if clothes don't matter - how acceptable is this hedgehog Jun 2013 #176

I think you know the difference. morningfog Jun 2013 #180

Not a parent? Because if you were your stand would be fantasy land. You are goddamn right I notice Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #205

I am a parent. morningfog Jun 2013 #207

So if a 12 year old girl Jenoch Jun 2013 #219

Why shouldn't I be? Yours is a ridiculous hypothetical, but morningfog Jun 2013 #223

Swim wear worn by anyone Jenoch Jun 2013 #225

Because it is only with 12 YO's that mothers control the wardrobe. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #227

we are talking about kids, and unless you are okay with them running around naked at 12- bettyellen Jun 2013 #230

It is what it is. Aerows Jun 2013 #184

+1 n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #84

+ a brazillion uppityperson Jun 2013 #149

Are you fucking kidding me? RetroLounge Jun 2013 #249

Does harrassing MineralMan about this make you feel special? Sure seems like it. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #126

Your punctuation mistakes and misspellings cliffordu Jun 2013 #122

Some men might think a Lolita is not whom they want to sit near. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #202

"A Lolita"?! redqueen Jun 2013 #206

It only took 36 posts Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #45

Before this thread is swooped down upon by an angry mob... Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #6

Yes, I'm sure there are guys who enjoy seeing that. MineralMan Jun 2013 #9

You and I are on the same page. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #11

As a female old fart, I have to agree with you. I'm basically an old hippie and I find the Nay Jun 2013 #38

As another female old fart... malokvale77 Jun 2013 #132

I agree. I moved from one city where Ilsa Jun 2013 #78

Very good point. HappyMe Jun 2013 #88

re: tweens dressed like "hookers" redqueen Jun 2013 #98

Yeah, well, I didn't want to spend Ilsa Jun 2013 #106

I know... redqueen Jun 2013 #112

Watch This snooper2 Jun 2013 #125

Geesh! You'd freeze your nubbins off in anything too scanty! We used to wear coats. davsand Jun 2013 #162

The hookers around here don't "dress like hookers". TrogL Jun 2013 #217

YEah, whatever. Let me know when you live in the real world. RetroLounge Jun 2013 #250

I agree- it would be nice. But also we have to acknowledge that clothes can be more provocative bettyellen Jun 2013 #255

"a reflection of our society's penchant for over-emphasizing sexuality at younger and younger ages." CrispyQ Jun 2013 #233

My reaction when I see this is amazement as well - why would anyone present themselves hedgehog Jun 2013 #12

Adults can wear anything they damn well please, MineralMan Jun 2013 #15

The word 'guidance' is key here. HappyMe Jun 2013 #19

Absolutely. And I think that deep Ilsa Jun 2013 #72

Adults can't wear anything they please mimi85 Jun 2013 #234

Too late, the usual suspects are already swooping. RetroLounge Jun 2013 #251

At this point, it's only bones. Even the vultures have left. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #259

Oh, there's all kinds of new posters picking at the remains RetroLounge Jun 2013 #260

... Apophis Jun 2013 #17

Watch "Sexy Baby" redqueen Jun 2013 #18

LOL. And the daddies are left out of the equation, it's very telling. nt boston bean Jun 2013 #20

Yeah... there are many fathers involved in their daughters' upbringing. redqueen Jun 2013 #21

Only custodial dads successfully tell daughters what to wear. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #22

It's like flies on poop! Isn't it? boston bean Jun 2013 #41

Yup! redqueen Jun 2013 #51

Well, in this case, Dad was not there. MineralMan Jun 2013 #27

It's a curious fact that I have never seen a father escorting a daughter dressed like that. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #30

Not saying I approve of the dress, but aging girls can be a challenge -- IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #23

Thanks for making this point. nt redqueen Jun 2013 #25

Nice thoughts on the topic. Thanks for the post. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2013 #178

My father told us girls when were were teens that we could no longer run around the house in uppityperson Jun 2013 #24

And thank you, so very much, for bringing up this much deeper issue. redqueen Jun 2013 #26

Not as long as their junk doesn't show. MineralMan Jun 2013 #28

Since the girl you reference did not have her genitals showing, seems hypocritical uppityperson Jun 2013 #29

She's got a point, MineralMan. ;) Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #33

Oooo, mesh muscle shirts, those are really something also. uppityperson Jun 2013 #35

The boys in the pants that expose their MineralMan Jun 2013 #44

That look has been "out" around here mimi85 Jun 2013 #235

LOL! Great question. I cannot wait to read his response. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #32

I'm reading this with interest and I think you upaloopa Jun 2013 #119

I remember back when I was a teen around 15 yrs and we had to travel. I remember southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #34

Mom was the only one there, not dad. MineralMan Jun 2013 #49

Well my dad would have really made a point. Before we left the house am sure he southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #54

I believe we grew up in a different time. MineralMan Jun 2013 #57

I think your right southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #60

My dad never would have let me wears shorts with my ass hanging out. HappyMe Jun 2013 #66

Well I was about 15 in 1963. Back then we didn't even wear pants suits in school. southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #134

I was in California, in a small farming town. MineralMan Jun 2013 #195

Why did you move to other seats? leftstreet Jun 2013 #36

That's my question too. morningfog Jun 2013 #40

Because society still has a FEW standards. Showing one's buttocks is not much different from showing kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #128

I know women and girls who go nude and they upaloopa Jun 2013 #138

Huh? What women walk around nude mimi85 Jun 2013 #241

Lol. So resolute, and based solely on a stupid morningfog Jun 2013 #141

Beware, sexual attraction photos below, if you are a "prospective sex partner" beware. uppityperson Jun 2013 #146

To be fair, most people would move seats if they were subjected to first four of those penultimate Jun 2013 #158

"the only reason for doing so is to attract the attention of prospective sex partners. " uppityperson Jun 2013 #160

Yeah, I got that part after I posted my comment... penultimate Jun 2013 #167

Because I was annoyed. MineralMan Jun 2013 #46

You could have made your OP more generic leftstreet Jun 2013 #86

There are always multiple ways to write anything. MineralMan Jun 2013 #89

Maybe I'm too pipi_k Jun 2013 #82

reminds me off a gal I know who had a tatto of a tiger jumping down her cleavage to grab her breast. bettyellen Jun 2013 #92

I guess this is why pipi_k Jun 2013 #103

No, no matter how girls or women dress, it is not an excuse for harassment. nt redqueen Jun 2013 #93

Nobody should pipi_k Jun 2013 #111

You didn't specify what kind of attention you meant, redqueen Jun 2013 #117

This IS about harassment. About men who stare at females. Men who harass females to wear what THEY uppityperson Jun 2013 #151

Men staring at females mimi85 Jun 2013 #237

Whoosh. sigh. eom. uppityperson Jun 2013 #261

And the OP harrassed no one. He just quietly moved away. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #129

The post you're replying to was not a response to the OP. redqueen Jun 2013 #135

Hey pipi_k Jun 2013 #175

Buttocks hanging out? I see germs! (well, not literally.) Ilsa Jun 2013 #83

Funny that you were the first person to introduce sex into this thread. Why is that? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #105

LOL nice try leftstreet Jun 2013 #136

No. You're projecting. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #137

No he didn't. n/t mimi85 Jun 2013 #239

So then why not let her go topless too? RetroLounge Jun 2013 #252

"Where do you think you're going in that outfit, young lady?" Raven Jun 2013 #37

Yes, my dad and my stepmom. HappyMe Jun 2013 #47

"Baby Slut-wear" is the generic name I gave to certain items of clothing msanthrope Jun 2013 #43

Ah, so it is the clothing a girl/woman wears which mark her as a "slut", is it? redqueen Jun 2013 #55

Would you wear "juicy" across your butt? What would you think of a woman who did? msanthrope Jun 2013 #102

It isn't "slutty" it's tacky. Quantess Jun 2013 #177

I've called no one 'slutty.' Kindly retract your accusation. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #181

Okay, then. I take it back. Quantess Jun 2013 #189

Thank you. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #192

Easy to hide behind implication and pretend we say things other than we mean. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #199

You mean like your post? If you are accusing me of something, msanthrope Jun 2013 #200

IMO calling a woman a slut based on her sexuality is equally wrong. redqueen Jun 2013 #185

Would these qualify? mbperrin Jun 2013 #210

Fathers hopefully ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #48

part of the problem jollyreaper2112 Jun 2013 #52

Sometimes the face doesn't properly convey the age Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #153

So because you can't help but pop a stiffy over some jailbait cleavage... Uzair Jun 2013 #53

What stiffy? MineralMan Jun 2013 #58

So then what so offended you that you had to move to other seats? Uzair Jun 2013 #59

I was annoyed by it. MineralMan Jun 2013 #61

Beaches must drive you mad with annoyance. morningfog Jun 2013 #67

No, you know, they don't at all. MineralMan Jun 2013 #69

How does location change what clothes you morningfog Jun 2013 #71

I can see that you don't understand. MineralMan Jun 2013 #73

So, cleavage and buttocks of a 12 year old at a beach, morningfog Jun 2013 #76

I notice he doesn't answer the interesting questions likethis one. uppityperson Jun 2013 #152

Good answer! mimi85 Jun 2013 #240

So full of shit Uzair Jun 2013 #91

+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #96

Did I not mention the airport? MineralMan Jun 2013 #140

Many times. Neoma Jun 2013 #213

Is there any location where you would have considered the girl at the airport to have been dressed redqueen Jun 2013 #123

Sure. The mall. A theme park. MineralMan Jun 2013 #139

So when you said "Moms: Please don't do this" you just meant that they shouldn't allow their young redqueen Jun 2013 #142

If it was okay at the mall, I don't see why it wouldn't be okay at the airport. kcr Jun 2013 #161

beaches and airplanes are NOT the same thing, LOL. bettyellen Jun 2013 #80

MM has already said his problem was with the age of the girl and the clothes she was wearing. redqueen Jun 2013 #100

Why do you defend him and never me? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #104

LOL what are you talking about? redqueen Jun 2013 #109

Yes, it was a joke at many levels. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #114

Thanks for the laugh redqueen Jun 2013 #121

Post 69- he addressed the beach issue. HappyMe Jun 2013 #107

I think the airport was the context he set up. It's a tricky subject- because while I wish bettyellen Jun 2013 #148

He has since said that he thinks the clothing would have been fine at a mall. redqueen Jun 2013 #172

Im not sure I want to see anyone's butt cheeks at the mall. I can understand wanting to move out of bettyellen Jun 2013 #232

Would you dress your girls up like this? snooper2 Jun 2013 #127

Aside from the fact that they're missing, you know, pants... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #150

Cute dog. Both girls could use a trip to the orthodontist TrogL Jun 2013 #218

He thought it was inappropriate, just as I would have. And I'm a woman. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #131

You apprear to host the same intolderance for others you indioct them with. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #81

This is pipi_k Jun 2013 #94

A "streetwalker"? Uzair Jun 2013 #116

Oh pardon me... pipi_k Jun 2013 #173

"prudish intolerance"? RetroLounge Jun 2013 #253

Amazing a jury allowed an accusation like that to stand. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #157

The jury system is a fucking joke MattBaggins Jun 2013 #169

Excellent post. Dr. Strange Jun 2013 #201

+1000 RetroLounge Jun 2013 #254

I would be annoyed by either sex grossly under-dressed Ilsa Jun 2013 #70

I need to shave my armpits to not annoy you? I'll send you a photo of my feet and sandals to make uppityperson Jun 2013 #154

Certainly, please and Ilsa Jun 2013 #156

In 1983, I wore a Members Only Jacket, acid washed blue jeans, a peach colored Izod shirt LanternWaste Jun 2013 #74

I graduated from high school in 1963, MineralMan Jun 2013 #87

I dressed about the same way in 1983! (I was 19 at the time) bullwinkle428 Jun 2013 #166

Fellow 80's child here VWolf Jun 2013 #208

If she had actual cleavage, chances are good she was older with a young face. pnwmom Jun 2013 #75

LOL! 100 replies and so quickly! Who knew? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #101

the Shorts cut about the Butt seems to be a trend this season JI7 Jun 2013 #108

This will end well. Initech Jun 2013 #110

It started out fine... Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #115

That was just round one. I'll stock plenty of butter for round 2. Initech Jun 2013 #120

You must have a lot of free time. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #113

And much self-importance. "Now ladies, moms out there, tsk, tsk!" morningfog Jun 2013 #118

You're taking this very, very personally. It was not intended that way. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #143

THis really hits close to home for you, huh? RetroLounge Jun 2013 #256

... except when it comes to criticizing what they post. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #144

NO ONE IS TO STONE ANYONE UNTIL I BLOW THIS WHISTLE Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #147

It seems pretty clear, doesn't it. MineralMan Jun 2013 #183

I know exactly what you're talking about because my 12-yr old granddaughter chooses to dress txwhitedove Jun 2013 #145

Parents. Not just moms. GObamaGO Jun 2013 #163

Just visited LBN and now I see what this is about suffragette Jun 2013 #168

I didn't see that post. MineralMan Jun 2013 #170

While we're on the subject-- stop wearing pajamas in public, people. Marr Jun 2013 #171

Haha Sugarcoated Jun 2013 #224

As a parent of a 15 year old, it comes down to picking and choosing the battles you want madinmaryland Jun 2013 #179

I suppose that could be. It's a pity, though. MineralMan Jun 2013 #182

Have you ever had a daughter or any child for that matter? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #187

As I have said many times on DU, MineralMan Jun 2013 #191

Clothing isn't behavior. It's clothing. redqueen Jun 2013 #188

They are thinking some of several things: LWolf Jun 2013 #190

Yes, I'm sure you have. MineralMan Jun 2013 #193

Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch... trumad Jun 2013 #194

Well, thanks for your feedback, trumad. MineralMan Jun 2013 #196

I know, right? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #197

You've got to be kidding. mimi85 Jun 2013 #245

I think maybe you are blinded by your prior interactions with the OP RetroLounge Jun 2013 #257

That's what kids wear these days in So. Calif. I substitute teach in LibDemAlways Jun 2013 #198

If that's the case, I'm the luckiest dad ever. VWolf Jun 2013 #209

Over-sexualization of children can be a problem, sure. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #204

Why move?... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #211

Why does it bother you that he moved? RetroLounge Jun 2013 #258

You did exactly the right thing. Grey Jun 2013 #212

Both my wife and I moved. She made much the same MineralMan Jun 2013 #214

Dress is communication. Why do we where suit and tie? What is it meant to say about us? Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #215

Juicy is a logo. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #222

I think you are absolutely correct. nt bike man Jun 2013 #216

My standard for what's appropriate noamnety Jun 2013 #220

I'm not that concerned with the dress of high-school aged teens MineralMan Jun 2013 #221

Excellent example! hedgehog Jun 2013 #242

I remember a few years back... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #226

Parents who let their kids dress pipi_k Jun 2013 #228

I'm not sure how I emded up on this thread. HOWEVER, mothers have long and foreverr maddiemom Jun 2013 #229

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #236

I think you're making a good point about the two extremes. hedgehog Jun 2013 #243

I'm not a mom, and will never be... HipChick Jun 2013 #244

I agree. Thanks. MineralMan Jun 2013 #246

I have mixed feelings here gollygee Jun 2013 #247

I have no problem with shorts and tank tops on kids. MineralMan Jun 2013 #248