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dkf

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26. Someone made a point that the espionage charge is due to disclosing Chinese hack attacks to a

Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:13 PM

Jun 2013

Hong Kong paper. Did he do that to trigger the type of charge that he could use their loopholes for?

Maybe Snowden is the true chess master.

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U.S. charges Snowden with espionage [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 OP

His Actions Seem To Fit The Statute, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2013 #1

It's so much beyond him, but that's ok nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #2

LOL, it is pretty scary when someone politely disagrees with you. FSogol Jun 2013 #6

Let's not pretend "The Magistrate" politely does anything. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #10

schtick distilled bobduca Jun 2013 #72

Coldly calculated, at that. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #73

How on earth did the Magistrate offend you with those simple truthful words? DCBob Jun 2013 #45

truthful? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #74

Perhaps because he speaks out of both sides of his mouth. reusrename Jun 2013 #75

He was charged with theft of government property. reusrename Jun 2013 #70

It's in the rocket docket. How is that secret? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #84

Yes, that way any of us interested in knowing about any of this truedelphi Jun 2013 #89

List of laws involving national security. Please note the ones he's DevonRex Jun 2013 #94

From the link: ProSense Jun 2013 #3

Article excerpt from yesterday, below Tx4obama Jun 2013 #4

What you mean Clinton era global government ceonupe Jun 2013 #47

Sounds like he'll be US bound flamingdem Jun 2013 #97

Now we get to see how much the Chinese think he is worth. Rex Jun 2013 #5

Obama's amazing Transparent Surveillance State Machine rolls on! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #7

Thanks, Obama... SidDithers Jun 2013 #11

Can always count on you to say MNBrewer Jun 2013 #13

Yep cpwm17 Jun 2013 #15

Just like we can count on anti-Obama snark from you... SidDithers Jun 2013 #25

+1000. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #49

When he or his administration gets something right, I comment MNBrewer Jun 2013 #68

Complicate in a good way or a bad way? dkf Jun 2013 #8

Bad way for the US nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #9

Someone made a point that the espionage charge is due to disclosing Chinese hack attacks to a dkf Jun 2013 #26

Might, I don't know. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #35

And spying on a university. Geez. dkf Jun 2013 #37

They do as well. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #40

the way i see it a newspaper is a newspaper Monkie Jun 2013 #67

OP is completely unfamiliar with this, which is not surprising. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #27

Hasn't he been charged? dkf Jun 2013 #29

This is a sealed criminal complaint... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #31

Sealed criminal compliant...still all this damned secrecy. dkf Jun 2013 #41

WOW. You don't know how common this is in federal cases, do you? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #44

Well I hope we never see it then. dkf Jun 2013 #58

"the little tricks of legalese" OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #69

Unfortunately I am learning about due process thanks to govt overreach dkf Jun 2013 #71

You could've started at the library. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #77

But they didn't have to, did they? dkf Jun 2013 #83

Didn't have to what? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #85

Seal it. dkf Jun 2013 #90

makes me laugh that those on DU continually wishing to string up Obama.... Sheepshank Jun 2013 #86

The good news for Snowden is MNBrewer Jun 2013 #12

Or Pakistan. Rex Jun 2013 #19

+1 n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #32

Can it ever be a crime to report wrong-doing by gov? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #14

Under US law? Yes nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #17

Another poster explained to me it is now unethical to report unethical behavior in government avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #22

Yup, give me a sec, and will give you link nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #30

Right, but it hasn't been addressed by the SCOTUS usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #39

We first need a case. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #42

State vs Edward Snowden usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #51

Yeah, but the court needs to take it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #52

Agreed but at least it will remove any remaining doubt usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #78

True nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #79

You are ignoring the fact that he STOLE classified government documents. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #20

"wrong-doing"? ProSense Jun 2013 #55

Wrong usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #76

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." davidn3600 Jun 2013 #16

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #18

'Saying something' and STEALING classified government documents are two totally different things. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #21

No... Sometimes Merely Saying Something Is A Criminal Act... Even For Sitting U.S. Senators... WillyT Jun 2013 #28

You might want to read this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #36

so you see a house on fire with a baby inside, but the door is locked Monkie Jun 2013 #92

Yep Catherina Jun 2013 #46

"Realize this will complicate any extradition request" Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #23

LOL! n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #34

Crunchy... SidDithers Jun 2013 #59

Pay back's a bitch cpwm17 Jun 2013 #24

You can bet that the trial, if it occurs, will be a closed affair Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #33

Well by the time they get to trial... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #38

It will be closed before it could even start Catherina Jun 2013 #54

Its a clear case of espionage.. even it he didn't realize it or intend it. DCBob Jun 2013 #43

You mean the same ones that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #48

How? davidn3600 Jun 2013 #50

He could have taken it to someone like Bernie Sanders... DCBob Jun 2013 #57

Two links nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #61

I think these are not comparable cases. DCBob Jun 2013 #64

Drake was as well until it wasn't nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #65

Wikileaks has arranged a plane ready to fly him to Iceland. FarCenter Jun 2013 #53

Hong Kong tends to not do extraditions nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #56

One possibility is that Hong Kong takes him into custody awaiting the outcome of extradition process FarCenter Jun 2013 #60

We will see nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #63

He won't make it to Iceland. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #66

Good. lamp_shade Jun 2013 #62

So much for the national conversation about the spying. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #80

They are trying to stop it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #81

Did Snowden receive any compensation for the info he released...from anyone? Sheepshank Jun 2013 #82

if he wanted money why leak in public, your question makes no sense? Monkie Jun 2013 #91

I can think of at least two responses Sheepshank Jun 2013 #100

i lost you at i can think Monkie Jun 2013 #101

Tyrants have strong thumbs..weak fingers. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #87

His actions were terribly misplaced, the cause will be exposed and those involved Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #88

You are confusing, pretty adroitly I must say, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #93

So what Snowden reported *wasn't* Bullshit. Otherwise why bother charging him? n/t yodermon Jun 2013 #95

Nope...talking points need revision nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #96

Snowden took real documents from a NSA server and shared them with unauthorized people. DCBob Jun 2013 #98

The reason to charge him is because he committed several felonies. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #99

Welcome to bizzaro world Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #102

Well, per MSNBC Snowden is going to Ecuador to seek political asylum nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #103