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In reply to the discussion: Who is your pick for 2016 [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)HIllary is going to be the candidate and shall win the biggest landslide ever.
Unlike others, I am not going to put any of the candidates down for their politics, as it is a useless, and a very divisive thing to do.
If Hillary don't run, there are a lot of other candidates who would
IMHO a woman will be the next President, a democratic woman.
Now, if Hillary doesn't run, I would add Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker(when he wins the senate primary in NJ), Deval Patrick and one is forgetting Michelle Obama, though 2024 is more likely and Joe Biden himself.
Unlike others who toss all these things out against President Obama and Hillary, people forget that one is going to need their major supporters to win the nomination. And we need to look at 270 and more.
There is not going to be an unknown running for the republicans.
And history shows us things and try as the people who don't like the President can, they will NOT make the President dis-honest
(though some are trying hard.)
People don't seem to realize that the Obama and Hillary supporters time and again have seen all the smears and put downs
and people will not change that opinion. In fact, the more crap that is thrown at them, the more the votes are already locked in.
Add Joe Biden to the mix, and he takes away the space for anyone else and Joe can and may just be the VP for Hillary, at least for the first term(there is good logic to not have someone ultra eager to be President), and Edwards comes to mind about the exact wrong type of VP.
Maybe Hillary will pick Howard Dean.
I personally would like the people in the senate to remain in the senate (both Warren and Booker).
Hard enough to win seats at this very point in time (other years were different).
I don't expect most of the people on the above list or on the ones I said to run if Hillary runs.
Some will run for VP.
The object is to get to 270 easily. I think Hillary will win 500.
If someone shows me exactly which and how many states others can win, I will listen, and I will 100% vote for whomever is the pick.
I just know whomever it is better win the general.
And as I have said, we might just be going against Jeb Bush/Rand Paul and Rand would NOT refuse the offer.
(especially as I think the odds are good he cannot win reelection to his senate seat and won't try at all.)
my vote though is for Hillary above. 6/21/2013 as Michelle and the President himself are not running.