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graham4anything

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12. I would vote for anyone who is the democratic candidate for President, however.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jun 2013

HIllary is going to be the candidate and shall win the biggest landslide ever.

Unlike others, I am not going to put any of the candidates down for their politics, as it is a useless, and a very divisive thing to do.

If Hillary don't run, there are a lot of other candidates who would

IMHO a woman will be the next President, a democratic woman.

Now, if Hillary doesn't run, I would add Janet Napolitano, Kathleen Sebelius, Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker(when he wins the senate primary in NJ), Deval Patrick and one is forgetting Michelle Obama, though 2024 is more likely and Joe Biden himself.

Unlike others who toss all these things out against President Obama and Hillary, people forget that one is going to need their major supporters to win the nomination. And we need to look at 270 and more.

There is not going to be an unknown running for the republicans.
And history shows us things and try as the people who don't like the President can, they will NOT make the President dis-honest
(though some are trying hard.)

People don't seem to realize that the Obama and Hillary supporters time and again have seen all the smears and put downs
and people will not change that opinion. In fact, the more crap that is thrown at them, the more the votes are already locked in.

Add Joe Biden to the mix, and he takes away the space for anyone else and Joe can and may just be the VP for Hillary, at least for the first term(there is good logic to not have someone ultra eager to be President), and Edwards comes to mind about the exact wrong type of VP.

Maybe Hillary will pick Howard Dean.

I personally would like the people in the senate to remain in the senate (both Warren and Booker).
Hard enough to win seats at this very point in time (other years were different).

I don't expect most of the people on the above list or on the ones I said to run if Hillary runs.

Some will run for VP.

The object is to get to 270 easily. I think Hillary will win 500.

If someone shows me exactly which and how many states others can win, I will listen, and I will 100% vote for whomever is the pick.
I just know whomever it is better win the general.

And as I have said, we might just be going against Jeb Bush/Rand Paul and Rand would NOT refuse the offer.
(especially as I think the odds are good he cannot win reelection to his senate seat and won't try at all.)


my vote though is for Hillary above. 6/21/2013 as Michelle and the President himself are not running.

Who is your pick for 2016 [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP
Dennis Kucinich. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #1
Honestly, I wish that wing of the party had a better standard-bearer than kooch. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #13
And what, specifically, is wrong with him? Ignoring the 25 year long smear campaign, what has he Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #26
He's just not presidential material. He doesn't have a chance of ever winning that nomination. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #30
I don't disagree that Americans are profoundly ignorant and shallow, I was Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #35
Well, there's this... bluedigger Jun 2013 #61
Is this supposed to make a point? An answer? He's not good looking? He wants to make a nice paycheck Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #66
He's a contributor to Fox News. bluedigger Jun 2013 #69
You don't think there's difference between doing it while in office and after? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #74
You mean, aside from the UFOs? Okay, for one I -did- support him early in the '08 primary process Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #65
You think that a known fraud, a notorious and completely transparent con-man that created Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #73
there's that, too. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #75
While it's a sad commentary on US zeeland Jun 2013 #60
It doesn't even matter what he thinks amuse bouche Jun 2013 #89
Hillary! MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #2
+1 ...for war, drones and the National Snooping Asscarrots. L0oniX Jun 2013 #3
I almost said Martin O'Malley Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #4
After Clinton/Obama, NO MORE DINOS, DLC, Third Way, Blue Dogs, or "New" Democrats. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #5
If we can't knock them out of key leadership positions, it's time to form a third party yurbud Jun 2013 #7
+billions Nt newfie11 Jun 2013 #20
+1000 forestpath Jun 2013 #11
It's too bad Obama can't run for a third term. ProSense Jun 2013 #45
Who do I want to win or who do I think will win? Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #6
I would be surprised if it wasn't Hillary, but her campaign seemed to stumble badly last time yurbud Jun 2013 #8
How about who you would vote for in the primary? Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #14
Right now, my gut is telling me I want Biden... Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #16
I dont think he's going to run. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #18
oh... I had forgotten about that... Yeah, that was not very good Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #33
Right, cause Senator Citibank is such a great champion of the "little people". Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #28
Al Franken and Jill Stein...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #9
Who are you and what have you done with Sid? Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #19
LOL !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #21
I just want a Franken / Stein bumper sticker... SidDithers Jun 2013 #22
Yowch. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #24
Thread winner! RetroLounge Jun 2013 #62
How about a Franken/Weiner? graham4anything Jun 2013 #77
DUzy HappyMe Jun 2013 #86
I don't think Franken has a chance, but I'd consider him, if he'd run. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #32
I wish Brian Schweitzer wanted the job Warpy Jun 2013 #10
Dean and Schweitzer would be a dream ticket. nt grasswire Jun 2013 #36
You and me both. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #76
I would vote for anyone who is the democratic candidate for President, however. graham4anything Jun 2013 #12
So you see Hilary Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #64
Oklahoma is ripe for the picking. graham4anything Jun 2013 #72
That would be the same Oklahoma Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #90
A woman might get a different vote & women make up 52%, don't they? graham4anything Jun 2013 #91
The Eagles in 6 games burnodo Jun 2013 #15
Sherrod Brown tends to make the most overall sense to me. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #17
I voted "Other" thinking primarily of Sherrod Brown Jim Lane Jun 2013 #85
I'm waiting to see where they stand on surveillance. dkf Jun 2013 #23
I don't care as long as it is an all female ticket. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #25
"we have a very shallow bench compared to the Republicans." BlueStater Jun 2013 #29
We have exactly one A-lister. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #37
Christie is the only serious candidate of that bunch. BlueStater Jun 2013 #39
The vast majority of Americans do not vote on issues or substance. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #44
Christie is discourteous and downright mean. He can't control his temper JDPriestly Jun 2013 #79
Not fair Prosense, you need to vote in your own poll!! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #27
No, I don't "need to." Did you vote? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #31
Yes, for Warren. And I know you don't "need" to but it would be nice. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #38
If you insist ProSense Jun 2013 #42
Well, I 100% agree with you on that one! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #54
Kamala Harris? graham4anything Jun 2013 #80
My vote? Elizabeth Warren, but I know full well it will never happen 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #34
GOTTA be someone other than the usual also rans... n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #40
Too fucking early!!! And it will NOT be Liz Warren. longship Jun 2013 #41
Her running is just a pipe dream around here. BlueStater Jun 2013 #46
Agreed. But she will be a great Senator. longship Jun 2013 #48
It's amazing how DU's 2016 Dem poll have Warren leading, Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #43
I doubt if Senator Warren has 40% name recognition. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #47
Hillary is inevitable? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #51
The national polls which do not sample a Agschmid Jun 2013 #57
Believe elsewhere, DU is not the real world. Beacool Jun 2013 #70
i believe Kucinich led DU polls at times, and in 2008 i think Edwards JI7 Jun 2013 #71
Elizabeth Warren and Alan Grayson n/t Triana Jun 2013 #49
I'd wager dollars to doughnuts that neither Hillary nor Liz runs. longship Jun 2013 #50
Waiting to see how 2014 plays out politicasista Jun 2013 #52
I voted for Dean MelungeonWoman Jun 2013 #53
Joe Biden 2016!!!! Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #55
So at this moment 45 of you... Agschmid Jun 2013 #56
They're all One Percenters. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #58
Elizabeth Warren duuser5822 Jun 2013 #59
What, no Rand Paul? tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #63
I'm surprised no one has tossed out the name... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #67
How many of these polls are we going to have until the actual election season starts? Beacool Jun 2013 #68
Hillary is so warm, strong, brilliant, applegrove Jun 2013 #78
Barrack Hussein Obama chknltl Jun 2013 #81
Senator Patty Murray (Wa) nt chknltl Jun 2013 #82
"Too Early" is a prayer that someone quickly emerges. Loudly Jun 2013 #83
After listening to all the debate about Obama LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #84
Don't know. The nominee will once again probably be someone I'll have to hold my nose while voting hobbit709 Jun 2013 #87
I don't trust Hillary, B Calm Jun 2013 #88
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