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182. The Libertarians hate the Democrats because Democrats are the party of government. Period.

Like the Koches, they want this government gone for their 'freedom.' Which won't grant any to those who aren't in the 1%. They can call themselves leftist or liberal libertarians, but they have met the right or conservative libertarians in the same place.

The only thing standing them and their Koch friends is the Democratic Party. No, they are not our allies, they will ratfuck us into losing elections and majorities, then come back to mock us for not getting done what we want. They were a big part in not getting those majorities to affect change. Because they would not stoop to our level and work within the system, as it's 'dirty.' I've never seen a pile of dishes or laundry clean itself, nor can government by those gleefully wanting to destroy those trying.

Which is liberal. Which is progressive. And is solely related to the government, which they hate. They hate the Equality that so many have fought and died for. Literally died, were tortured, murdered and slaughtered wholesale. They will never find anything right with Democrats.



See the emphasis on anything legislated, which they call 'statism.' That is why they call us authoritarians and war mongers. They totally ignore the warfare that a Randian system is based on. It is class warfare, which they deny exists. Note they find Democrats close to communists, and Republicans close to nazis.

Those are forms of government. That is what they want gone. They want the government gone and for people to have no one to arbitrate between the rich or stop them getting richer. Just like the Koches. Not allies. Wolves in sheep clothing here to devour our belief system with all the zealotry and hatred of the most rabid fundamentalist cult.

I'm glad some of them are finally saying what they're about. Saying they'll vote for Rand. Saying they'll never vote for a Democrat. Saying that those of us who oppose their cult, and it is a cult, should shut the hell up.

They claim the free market will handle everything and that is liberty and freedom. We have not had, nor will we ever have the idealized free market they speak of because even if government did not exist, other large entities would control resources and rights. They won't talk about them, they want them free to get bigger.

That has not worked in the past. It is robber baron worshipping social darwinism. It was rejected by progressive and liberals. It is not what DU's mission statement establishes:

Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

We are certainly see them post here. And the TOS also states:

Everyone here on DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

While that is narrow, speaking of election season, most of us are aware that the electoral loss in 2010 was not actually in that election season. It was the stated goal of the GOP as Obama was being sworn in. It was 2 full years of a massive propaganda campaign ostensibly from the right, but with their libertarian supporters, the 'left' also propagandized heavily.

Everything that did not go exactly as Obama and the Democrats planned and that things would not go as planned was a Koch plot. Their solution in each instance was anything but voting for Democrats. Because that would work. They did not want it to work, it wasn't good enough.

That has been proven again and again, and it is ratfucking. It has lost good Democrats elected office for over 40 years. It is not a game, it has transformed this country into something very hard to move forward with. All of that was detailed in stories posted here at DU. And this is also another session of ratfucking that has built since the first week Obama won an exhausting campaign last year.

The ones who hate the Democrats and Obama, and our government as an evil entity, were frothing with rage about being denied their chance to bash the party, so they contented themselves with despair trolling. They did not allow Democrats here to have one week in celebration over a massive attempt to stop us voting, and having to fight against the most incredibly dishonest and regressive campaign ever. The money poured in was so obviously intent on getting a 'robosigner' in the White House.

This was stated by Norquist, and the Koches even came out of their vipers nest to show their faces along with Adelson at the GOP convention. The infamous place where racism was clearly on display. In contrast, the DNC in Charlotte was a model of the Democratic dream for America. Working on diversity and inclusion. That is what Obama is about. And it is done by the government that freed the slaves, gave women the right to vote and privacy, that set a more equal playing field.

When I see libertarians and their supporters complain about the social safety net, I almost vomit from the dishonesty. They don't believe in it, but they are here to point out every failure, supposed failure. and none of the successes. They know what good thing our Democratic programs have done and they hate it.

They hate us. We are the statist, welfare loving moochers who they say are denying their rights. Their right to screw us without a kiss and tell us we don't matter if we don't have money.

And they don't care about rights for every person in this country. Their so called liberty and freedom doesn't extend to women, POC, gays and emigrants except in lip service. And they are absent from threads about civil rights. Because equal pay is an economic drain to their profit. They simply can't see these lesser persons, any more than Fox News expected all those invisible people to re-elect Obama.

We are beneath their level of society and concern. They are all into the 'important' things. We are about survival and take it seriously. Our work for generations has given us a frame work to take care of people most don't respect or care about unless they can find a failure. We, the invisible, the ones they want to shut up.

This is about 2014. The election began the day Obama was returned to office. They've nearly a year in ratfucking accomplished and they have the money an media to carry it all the way until a loss in 2014. The negativity is designed to depress the vote.

2010 didn't happen in 2010. 2014 will not happen in 2014. It is now, every day that people are being ratfucked away from the Democrats and told that the government needs to go away. When you see the CT and the accusations, they alway point to the government. Numerous threads are posted, but they will not cheer one good thing, or any reforms Which says they want it gone..

For example, those who term all LEOS as jackbooted thugs, etc., don't go to confront the people that are raping babies and killing the disabled and homeless. They never add to those threads, the civil liberties warriors tare conspicously absent. Those people must not be important, but Greenwald and Rand are important.

Sorry, us lesser folks may be invisible to them, but those who savage those working to make things better, we can see you just fine. We're not the sheeple they call us. We just have a diferent point of view. Not quite so lofty as they do. They don't care if women live in The Handmaiden's Tale. They don't care about the poor, education or health care, they only wail about the extremes and deny what is being done by Obama and the Democrats. They never celebrate traditional Democratic values.

That's my opinion. Everyone has one. I am not stupid. I can see and hear and think, very well.