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In reply to the discussion: is a liveblog of Snowdens movements the biggest troll in history? [View all]Monkie
(1,301 posts)3. i'm saying it is confusing, but the US has a history of rendition and kidnapping and torture
with some of that outsourced to that same $80 billion dollar a year industry Snowden is exposing and threatening.
i think its bizarre that we are "following" a whistleblower on his trip around the world as he dances away from the grips of the most powerful nation in the world. dont you?
i seriously doubt they would bomb a jet these days, although there is a history of this criminality
While flying in Iranian airspace over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path, it was destroyed by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes. All 290 onboard, including 66 children and 16 crew, perished
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
you are saying that the US would not kidnap its own citizen if they have americans on secret kill lists?
An Italian judge has convicted 23 Americans - all but one of them CIA agents - and two Italian secret agents for the 2003 kidnap of a Muslim cleric.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8343123.stm
i dont think the guardian is setting Snowden up, thats silly, but i do think that it would be stupid of Snowden to not throw out false trails.
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i'm saying it is confusing, but the US has a history of rendition and kidnapping and torture
Monkie
Jun 2013
#3
all EU nations have exceptions in their law for political prisoners and in asylum cases
Monkie
Jun 2013
#8
Because they wouldn't regard him as a "political prisoner," they'd regard him as a thief, at minimum
MADem
Jun 2013
#15
your hate is showing through, gave to other nations, sold? newspapers are not nations
Monkie
Jun 2013
#16
maybe if you took the time to read, and replied to what i said, it would be easier to be civil
Monkie
Jun 2013
#38
I do take the time to read every uncapitalized word and run-together paragraph you write.
MADem
Jun 2013
#39
The main point is that no state apparatus on Earth has any abiding interest in harboring him
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2013
#28
you can chose to believe that, but it is just a belief unless you can give some more concrete
Monkie
Jun 2013
#33
Too bad we didn't have money on it. I'd go double or nothing he still won't be in custody
morningfog
Jun 2013
#41
"...while the most powerful nation in the world can only watch in humiliation."
Scurrilous
Jun 2013
#46