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Monkie

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3. i'm saying it is confusing, but the US has a history of rendition and kidnapping and torture
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:43 AM
Jun 2013

with some of that outsourced to that same $80 billion dollar a year industry Snowden is exposing and threatening.
i think its bizarre that we are "following" a whistleblower on his trip around the world as he dances away from the grips of the most powerful nation in the world. dont you?

i seriously doubt they would bomb a jet these days, although there is a history of this criminality

While flying in Iranian airspace over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf on its usual flight path, it was destroyed by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes. All 290 onboard, including 66 children and 16 crew, perished

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

you are saying that the US would not kidnap its own citizen if they have americans on secret kill lists?

An Italian judge has convicted 23 Americans - all but one of them CIA agents - and two Italian secret agents for the 2003 kidnap of a Muslim cleric.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8343123.stm

i dont think the guardian is setting Snowden up, thats silly, but i do think that it would be stupid of Snowden to not throw out false trails.

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I'm not sure what you're saying here. cali Jun 2013 #1
i'm saying it is confusing, but the US has a history of rendition and kidnapping and torture Monkie Jun 2013 #3
I don't think the U.S. could possibly get away with blowing up a plane cali Jun 2013 #4
in international airspace it would be easy to force his plane to US soil Monkie Jun 2013 #7
nah. the U.S. will not force a plane carrying Snowden to land in the U.S. cali Jun 2013 #10
what is your reasoning for claiming they wont force the plane to the USA? Monkie Jun 2013 #12
"We" aren't doing the raw reporting here--the Russians are. MADem Jun 2013 #6
so thats my first prediction right or not?so this was a troll Monkie Jun 2013 #40
stupid JI7 Jun 2013 #2
He's not going to the EU. He'd be arrested on sight. MADem Jun 2013 #5
all EU nations have exceptions in their law for political prisoners and in asylum cases Monkie Jun 2013 #8
He'd be arrested on sight. He's not safe in Europe. MADem Jun 2013 #9
based on what knowledge of the EU and EU law and the laws of member states Monkie Jun 2013 #13
Because they wouldn't regard him as a "political prisoner," they'd regard him as a thief, at minimum MADem Jun 2013 #15
your hate is showing through, gave to other nations, sold? newspapers are not nations Monkie Jun 2013 #16
Why, listen to you! Temper, temper! MADem Jun 2013 #17
way to completely ignore and miss every point i make, clever. Monkie Jun 2013 #18
And yet, you persist with more "loaded" language. MADem Jun 2013 #23
i gave them here already? Monkie Jun 2013 #27
I want to memorialize this, so I'll make myself a copy. MADem Jun 2013 #29
of course you can keep being willfully ignorant, im used to it by now Monkie Jun 2013 #32
Again with the gratuitous insults--like they make you a tough guy, or "right." MADem Jun 2013 #34
maybe if you took the time to read, and replied to what i said, it would be easier to be civil Monkie Jun 2013 #38
I do take the time to read every uncapitalized word and run-together paragraph you write. MADem Jun 2013 #39
Safe in Europe? Not. cali Jun 2013 #11
he exposed massive criminality by google and yahoo and microsoft Monkie Jun 2013 #14
Let me offer something else nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19
that is a excellent topic indeed Monkie Jun 2013 #21
He'll be in US custody before the Stanley Cup is settled alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #20
if he leaves russia but does not go to the EU i wouldnt dare wager with you Monkie Jun 2013 #22
Safer betting on the cray Stanley Cup alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #24
he is in international "space" without documentation Monkie Jun 2013 #25
The main point is that no state apparatus on Earth has any abiding interest in harboring him alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #28
i have said this before, the EU has really good reasons for giving him asylum Monkie Jun 2013 #30
No EU country will risk any conflict with State over this alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #31
you can chose to believe that, but it is just a belief unless you can give some more concrete Monkie Jun 2013 #33
The good thing about this is that we get to see how it plays out alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #35
Hahaha. Which year? morningfog Jun 2013 #36
We shall see alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #37
Too bad we didn't have money on it. I'd go double or nothing he still won't be in custody morningfog Jun 2013 #41
I saw someone pass the Cup to Snowden Union Scribe Jun 2013 #42
Thought for sure it would go to Game 7 alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #44
Game 7 would have been three days ago. morningfog Jun 2013 #45
Lucky for me I didn't bet alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #47
I love it! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #26
Yes, he was... SidDithers Jun 2013 #43
"...while the most powerful nation in the world can only watch in humiliation." Scurrilous Jun 2013 #46
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