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Warren Stupidity

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85. "excessive" it was torture. He should be released on that malfeasance alone.

Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:03 AM

Jun 2013

but Snowden has no expectation of anything except having the book thrown at him - see for example aaron schwartz. He will be used as an example to other potential whistle blowers - keep your fucking mouths shut or this will be you.

You are either ok with that or you are not. I'm not ok with it.

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BREAKING: Snowden left Hong Kong 'legally and voluntarily', for a 'third country' - HK officials [View all] Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 OP

Surely after Russia he will head on over to North Korea Tx4obama Jun 2013 #1

What is your beef? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #2

they are just doing their job. morningfog Jun 2013 #98

There's only two ways he could leave Russia to anywhere else Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #5

So you're the back-up loyalist on the graveyard shift? Divernan Jun 2013 #28

Long DUer sharing my opinion here. So calm down. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #29

Clarification appreciated. Do you support Snowden remaining free? Divernan Jun 2013 #33

I don't know Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #38

"legal versions of standard police operating procedures" Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #44

Oh, you. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #47

Average people fly in and out of Hong Kong and Russia every day muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #41

You keep thinking that. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #42

Then it's not 'red tape', is it? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #56

Mwahahaha! Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #57

Milla Jovovich recently filmed a movie in Russia Babel_17 Jun 2013 #64

Well, she was born in Ukraine and she speaks Russian. Why is that surprising that she filmed MADem Jun 2013 #68

I was agreeing that's it not unusual for Americans to travel to Russia (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #96

It's not at all unusual for Americans who were born in USSR to travel there, certainly. MADem Jun 2013 #103

OK ... how is that relevant? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #69

I was agreeing that's it not unusual for Americans to travel to Russia (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #97

Had the graveyard, Johnny-on-the-spot shift, hmmmm? Divernan Jun 2013 #26

You know what? Everyone here doesn't agree with you. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #31

When some posters always attack critics of Obama . . . Divernan Jun 2013 #36

Maybe you should stick to questioning their arguments and leave their values and motivations Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #40

Au contraire! Divernan Jun 2013 #48

Perhaps you should read the terms of service here at DU again. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #51

Right! Like you calling me idiotic? Is that covered? Divernan Jun 2013 #53

I didn't do that. Go back and read again. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #55

You said I posted an "idiotic accusation". Divernan Jun 2013 #60

And it was. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #70

that's ridiculous. cali Jun 2013 #49

Your comment is way off the mark and inappropriate. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #105

He might as well make the rounds, huh? SkyDaddy7 Jun 2013 #50

Icelandair flies out of Moscow Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #3

Iceland's new leader is center right. He isn't going there. nt MADem Jun 2013 #52

Wikileaks just tweeted they helped Snowden get passage to "a democratic country" Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #4

I'm betting Ecuador then Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #7

Does Aeroflot fly direct from Moscow to Ecuador? Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #8

I believe they do Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #10

Probably not a nonstop flight DFW Jun 2013 #61

That seems like a very long haul for a direct flight Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #11

Someone on Twitter said (OK, so there's that) he's heading to Caracas via Cuba. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #12

Apparently a Private Plane from Moscow Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #14

good. cali Jun 2013 #6

CCTV is reporting on this right now JI7 Jun 2013 #9

@wikileaks FLASH: Mr. Snowden is currently over Russian airspace accompanied by Hissyspit Jun 2013 #13

Thanks for the updates Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #15

Wikileaks has had the "Wikileaks plane" waiting Hissyspit Jun 2013 #16

That's if he's going to Iceland. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #17

13 MINUTES AGO Snowden has 'Moscow to Cuba plane ticket' There is a ticket in Edward Snowden's name Hissyspit Jun 2013 #18

Russian State TV is saying from Cuba to Venezuela. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #19

I wish him the best. DLevine Jun 2013 #20

Exactly my thoughts too fasttense Jun 2013 #24

13:36 SNOWDEN'S ULTIMATE DESTINATION IS VENEZUELA WHERE HE WILL FLY TO FROM MOSCOW WITH STOPOVER IN Hissyspit Jun 2013 #21

Good choice jsr Jun 2013 #80

Yes, Venezuela, land of the free, where they certainly never abuse personal civil liberties. DCBob Jun 2013 #82

There's a report that Snowden has just landed in Moscow. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #22

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1m The fact that a person flies to City X Hissyspit Jun 2013 #23

@RT_com 8m UPDATE: #Snowden to take SU150 flight to Havana tomorrow, then flies to Caracas with Hissyspit Jun 2013 #25

I wish they wouldn't announce his flight plans magellan Jun 2013 #27

Partcularly after Michael Hastings' "accident". Divernan Jun 2013 #30

I don't know what to make of that magellan Jun 2013 #37

I just saw a report Snowden's got several tickets out of Moscow. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #32

Good. And if they can avoid putting his name on a passenger list magellan Jun 2013 #35

Several Tickets? Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #39

its probably all smokescreen and disinfo to throw of the $80 billion a year contractors Monkie Jun 2013 #75

I hope so magellan Jun 2013 #95

Run, Eddie, run! East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #34

+100000000 x darkangel218 Jun 2013 #43

excellnt xchrom Jun 2013 #45

At least one bit if good news after such a crappy night that i had darkangel218 Jun 2013 #46

ABC is reporting that he leaves for Cuba TOMORROW.... MADem Jun 2013 #54

And makes you think he will do that? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #58

Because you don't get something for nothing. nt MADem Jun 2013 #59

BS. he already told what he had to say. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #62

He's staying overnight. He doesn't leave until tomorrow afternoon. MADem Jun 2013 #67

OMG!!! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #71

Not really Sgent Jun 2013 #102

another univeral "truth" that isn't. cali Jun 2013 #63

Well, whatever you want to think, go on and think that. Quid pro quo makes sense to me. nt MADem Jun 2013 #66

I can predict Snowden's statement upon landing in Russia. randome Jun 2013 #65

So let me get this darkangel218 Jun 2013 #72

I will believe anything Mr. Snowden says if he provides evidence. randome Jun 2013 #77

LOL when did you become some impartial observer Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #94

Since the Snowden Saga began. randome Jun 2013 #104

that would be an accurate statement. See Bradley Manning. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #79

The judge said Manning's treatment was 'excessive'. randome Jun 2013 #81

"excessive" it was torture. He should be released on that malfeasance alone. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #85

If you want to see facts, don't discard the ones you disagree with. randome Jun 2013 #86

Sweet. 99Forever Jun 2013 #73

No kidding jsr Jun 2013 #83

All of their Torture/Rendition Fantasies Thwarted! bobduca Jun 2013 #101

Godspeed Mr Snowden n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #74

So does that make him a Chinese spy or a Russian spy? jsr Jun 2013 #76

I suspect its Venezuela. DCBob Jun 2013 #78

Wikileaks just tweeted that Snowden is landing in Moscow soon. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #84

Ecuador's ambassador to Russia has just arrived at airport. Could be meeting Snowden Catherina Jun 2013 #87

Im.so.happy!! x darkangel218 Jun 2013 #89

Me too :) Catherina Jun 2013 #90

The 1% will hunt him down and beat him like a runaway plantation field slave Zorra Jun 2013 #88

And the same people who worshipped *the law* Catherina Jun 2013 #91

Snowden has been examined by doctor from Ecuador embassy at Moscow airport Catherina Jun 2013 #92

Sen. Chuck Schumer Tears Into Russian Government For �Aiding� NSA Leaker Catherina Jun 2013 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #99

wow.incredible watching this..be safe Mr Snowden..nt xiamiam Jun 2013 #100