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In reply to the discussion: is a liveblog of Snowdens movements the biggest troll in history? [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)29. I want to memorialize this, so I'll make myself a copy.
Monkie (1,251 posts)
27. i gave them here already?
if he leaves russia it is either in a plane or in a "diplomatic bag" by car.
if he leaves russia via international airspace his plane will be intercepted and he will be renditioned to a federal facility.
if he flies or drives to a country in the EU he will have up to 8 years to fight his extradition if he is refused asylum.
the last possibility is that the US somehow persuades the russians to "invade" the international area at the airport and hand him to the US.
simple.
im no oracle at all, im just not wrapped up in this warped worldview that some seem to have here.
27. i gave them here already?
if he leaves russia it is either in a plane or in a "diplomatic bag" by car.
if he leaves russia via international airspace his plane will be intercepted and he will be renditioned to a federal facility.
if he flies or drives to a country in the EU he will have up to 8 years to fight his extradition if he is refused asylum.
the last possibility is that the US somehow persuades the russians to "invade" the international area at the airport and hand him to the US.
simple.
im no oracle at all, im just not wrapped up in this warped worldview that some seem to have here.
No "happily ever after" with Fidel or Maduro? No "Hail Mary" flight to Iceland? How do you think that the US will "intercept" his plane, pray tell?
I really want specifics, now--a couple of fighters will divert the craft, do you think? Force it down by sailing a missile across the bow? I need details!
And what does "up to eight years" mean? "Up to eight years" could be as brief as a day, or as long as eight years.
I kind of doubt the Russians need to "invade" their own international terminal. They have security personnel there already, who could--if needs must, and they decided to go that way--simply amble up, take Mister Snowden into custody and hand him, quietly, to a couple of FBI minders.
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i'm saying it is confusing, but the US has a history of rendition and kidnapping and torture
Monkie
Jun 2013
#3
all EU nations have exceptions in their law for political prisoners and in asylum cases
Monkie
Jun 2013
#8
Because they wouldn't regard him as a "political prisoner," they'd regard him as a thief, at minimum
MADem
Jun 2013
#15
your hate is showing through, gave to other nations, sold? newspapers are not nations
Monkie
Jun 2013
#16
maybe if you took the time to read, and replied to what i said, it would be easier to be civil
Monkie
Jun 2013
#38
I do take the time to read every uncapitalized word and run-together paragraph you write.
MADem
Jun 2013
#39
The main point is that no state apparatus on Earth has any abiding interest in harboring him
alcibiades_mystery
Jun 2013
#28
you can chose to believe that, but it is just a belief unless you can give some more concrete
Monkie
Jun 2013
#33
Too bad we didn't have money on it. I'd go double or nothing he still won't be in custody
morningfog
Jun 2013
#41
"...while the most powerful nation in the world can only watch in humiliation."
Scurrilous
Jun 2013
#46