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Monkie

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33. you can chose to believe that, but it is just a belief unless you can give some more concrete
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jun 2013

examples.
im not sure i understand what you mean by non-specific nature of the claim?
if the US could easily bully nation states in the EU then why did it fail to do so with china?
why has russia not handed him over?
the VP of the EU commission vivian reding, commissioner for justice,fundamental rights and citizenship, happens to be the lady who negotiated with the US with regard to implications of the FISA legislation for the EU and its laws, because it was obvious at the time they would breach EU law. from the public fury expressed by her regarding the revelations about NSA it would seem she was lied to.
and in case you do not understand europe, the european commission members are not voted for, they are appointed by member states.
you are glib about the leverage you think the US has, but the fear that can be seen from the public reactions of google and apple and the other tech companies involved is more telling than your statements.
they have considerable assets, and considerable profits to protect.
microsoft was hit with a total of $1,9 billion dollars in fines just for some small anti-trust matters to do with interoperability and the inclusion of a media player and browser with windows, the US i believe gave MS a pass on anti-trust.
so please, i am interested in your theories of american preeminence, but i dont think there is any basis in fact for your assertions.

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I'm not sure what you're saying here. cali Jun 2013 #1
i'm saying it is confusing, but the US has a history of rendition and kidnapping and torture Monkie Jun 2013 #3
I don't think the U.S. could possibly get away with blowing up a plane cali Jun 2013 #4
in international airspace it would be easy to force his plane to US soil Monkie Jun 2013 #7
nah. the U.S. will not force a plane carrying Snowden to land in the U.S. cali Jun 2013 #10
what is your reasoning for claiming they wont force the plane to the USA? Monkie Jun 2013 #12
"We" aren't doing the raw reporting here--the Russians are. MADem Jun 2013 #6
so thats my first prediction right or not?so this was a troll Monkie Jun 2013 #40
stupid JI7 Jun 2013 #2
He's not going to the EU. He'd be arrested on sight. MADem Jun 2013 #5
all EU nations have exceptions in their law for political prisoners and in asylum cases Monkie Jun 2013 #8
He'd be arrested on sight. He's not safe in Europe. MADem Jun 2013 #9
based on what knowledge of the EU and EU law and the laws of member states Monkie Jun 2013 #13
Because they wouldn't regard him as a "political prisoner," they'd regard him as a thief, at minimum MADem Jun 2013 #15
your hate is showing through, gave to other nations, sold? newspapers are not nations Monkie Jun 2013 #16
Why, listen to you! Temper, temper! MADem Jun 2013 #17
way to completely ignore and miss every point i make, clever. Monkie Jun 2013 #18
And yet, you persist with more "loaded" language. MADem Jun 2013 #23
i gave them here already? Monkie Jun 2013 #27
I want to memorialize this, so I'll make myself a copy. MADem Jun 2013 #29
of course you can keep being willfully ignorant, im used to it by now Monkie Jun 2013 #32
Again with the gratuitous insults--like they make you a tough guy, or "right." MADem Jun 2013 #34
maybe if you took the time to read, and replied to what i said, it would be easier to be civil Monkie Jun 2013 #38
I do take the time to read every uncapitalized word and run-together paragraph you write. MADem Jun 2013 #39
Safe in Europe? Not. cali Jun 2013 #11
he exposed massive criminality by google and yahoo and microsoft Monkie Jun 2013 #14
Let me offer something else nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19
that is a excellent topic indeed Monkie Jun 2013 #21
He'll be in US custody before the Stanley Cup is settled alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #20
if he leaves russia but does not go to the EU i wouldnt dare wager with you Monkie Jun 2013 #22
Safer betting on the cray Stanley Cup alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #24
he is in international "space" without documentation Monkie Jun 2013 #25
The main point is that no state apparatus on Earth has any abiding interest in harboring him alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #28
i have said this before, the EU has really good reasons for giving him asylum Monkie Jun 2013 #30
No EU country will risk any conflict with State over this alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #31
you can chose to believe that, but it is just a belief unless you can give some more concrete Monkie Jun 2013 #33
The good thing about this is that we get to see how it plays out alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #35
Hahaha. Which year? morningfog Jun 2013 #36
We shall see alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #37
Too bad we didn't have money on it. I'd go double or nothing he still won't be in custody morningfog Jun 2013 #41
I saw someone pass the Cup to Snowden Union Scribe Jun 2013 #42
Thought for sure it would go to Game 7 alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #44
Game 7 would have been three days ago. morningfog Jun 2013 #45
Lucky for me I didn't bet alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #47
I love it! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #26
Yes, he was... SidDithers Jun 2013 #43
"...while the most powerful nation in the world can only watch in humiliation." Scurrilous Jun 2013 #46
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