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In reply to the discussion: is a liveblog of Snowdens movements the biggest troll in history? [View all]Monkie
(1,301 posts)if you look at the other conversation i am having, in this thread with the gentleman who is actually having a civil discussion with me my tone is totally different? and the same is so on other threads.
but you have been smearing and twisting and playing out your straw man fantasies for quite a while, even now you still will not actually address what i DO say, because that would mean actually looking at your own position and seeing the gaping holes in it.
and you are not the only one, now i like to think i am a patient man, but when you have a whole bushel of people going of on their fantasy trip to "reality town" where the US is the home of the free surrounded by evil commies and paulite conspirators then after a while of trying to speak about actual facts with them gets pretty tiring.
to start with i never said i thought HE would end up in gitmo, i said the US had plenty of practice renditioning considering all the years of kidnapping and holding people without trail at gitmo, two completely different things, things i expect a grown man to instantly understand.
now you want or expect me to predict with precision how long a court case with multiple appeals takes? doing that would be delusional, i gave you a concrete example of a real case that has only just concluded after 8 years, and that guy was a actual terrorist, so i think that gives you a pretty good baseline on how long it could take. if someone where to say that stealing a few documents to blow the whistle on criminality by google et al on a massive scale is espionage then i dont think its strange to suggest that the courts in the EU will be more willing to consider that favourably than a terrorist hate preacher, that i have to now repeat this fact to you for the third time maybe explains why i have so little patience for you.
you asked me specifically how the US could rendition snowden if he was flying in international airspace, this is a very stupid question to ask, you could of found the answer yourself in less time than it took you to type the nonsense you just did.
i answered by giving you the two closest points to the european mainland where i know there would be the possibility for the US to launch planes from. what is so strange about that.
and you mention acts of war, massive spying on the scale your government does is not pretty close to a act of war?
launching illegal drone strikes is not close to a act of war?
you speak about waste of fuel, more nonsense, snowden is blowing the whistle on a $80 billion a year snout-in-the-trough industry yet you talk about fuel waste?
you ask me why i speak to you the way you do?
you are the only person i am going to have to stop giving the benefit of having his own though processes and reflections, i just cant believe how anyone can be so willfully ignorant, i can only conclude you are doing this on purpose.
so in the end, if you dont like my tone, hit the alert button, and let others be the judge if what i say is reasonable or not, or you could try to respond with some intelligence and not use strawman attacks and other childish debating techniques that might impress children but only cause me to lose my patience with you.
simple or not?