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61. For me, I think it's not the change that is the harm...

Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:48 AM

Jun 2013

It's that no matter how wonderful, how progressive, how successful the movement, after a point, the hierarchy develops. With hierarchy comes the need to maintain power, which leads to corruption, which leads to oppression, which leads to decay, which leads to anger and there we go again with another bloody revolution.

Meet the new boss. Same as it ever was. We think we're so clever and classless and free.

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Obama is a F*****G FRAUD | Daily Kos [View all] TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 OP

More Alex Jones crap. What the fuck is going on? Narkos Jun 2013 #1

I'm only reporting articles from Daily Kos TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #2

Heads up. A bit ago some one else posted the same article/link and the DU Jury locked/hid it. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #3

they should! flamingdem Jun 2013 #4

If a jury does plan to review this thread they should also take into account the writings of TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #25

That would slow things down. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #35

Jesus, it's outlandish the shit Narkos Jun 2013 #7

DU is primarily an anti -Obama website these days. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #5

There should be a difference between Democtatic Undergound... TreasonousBastard Jun 2013 #11

Open forum, mob rules. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #14

This is way beyond undermining. DevonRex Jun 2013 #21

Right on! Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #56

That's because the Democrats lost their way...a looong time ago. It's now catching up to them. silvershadow Jun 2013 #60

Actually I think some Democrats have lost their minds. DCBob Jun 2013 #81

Assuming they had them to lose. Cha Jun 2013 #190

"Them"? aquart Jun 2013 #100

+Pizza tridim Jun 2013 #152

Are you a Nader voter or a Paul libertarian? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #116

Neither. I am the canary in the coalmine. Ignore at your own peril. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #136

It is 100% certain you are not a Democrat. You just admitted it. tridim Jun 2013 #153

Whatever. If you think that I am not a Democrat, then it shows me more about your character than silvershadow Jun 2013 #154

So true Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #155

+1 DCBob Jun 2013 #80

+1 treestar Jun 2013 #93

This. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #98

Same crew as always. Note how these people weren't active when the rules about geek tragedy Jun 2013 #117

The author of the Kos article claims he did this 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #55

You're supposed to do your homework DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #67

Homework, Shmomework. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #69

Key word..... Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #86

That's why I used the word "claims" 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #145

Some anonymous troll claimed something and we're supposed to be impressed? Nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #118

+1,000 malaise Jun 2013 #83

+1 treestar Jun 2013 #92

The only undermining being done Broward Jun 2013 #96

Somehow, I don't think many of them have.....indeed. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #106

If only there were no reason to criticize him. n/t cui bono Jun 2013 #64

Criticize, yes. Demonize and vilify, hardly. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #105

For many here, Criticize equals demonize and vilify, if Obama is involved RC Jun 2013 #132

"Obama is a fucking fraud" and "Obama is a war criminal" and "hypocrite of the century" and geek tragedy Jun 2013 #133

Well... Maybe if Obama campaign rhetoric were more in line with his actions, you might have case. RC Jun 2013 #137

You're offering policy criticism. The haters calling him a "fucking fraud" geek tragedy Jun 2013 #138

For a large group on here any criticism at all is taken as demonization. cui bono Jun 2013 #146

Non sequitur. Expressions of personal disgust and condemnation towards Obama as a human geek tragedy Jun 2013 #147

I didn't say shift the debate away from policy, but I've seen countless times when cui bono Jun 2013 #148

Okay, we probably agree on both counts. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #149

We are pro-Social Security and anti-chained-CPI and anti-massive-surveillance. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #68

Of course, the issues where he agrees with us are irrelevant--those two issues geek tragedy Jun 2013 #102

+1...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #89

Yep Andy823 Jun 2013 #170

I've noticed that as well. It's sad what this place is coming to. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #184

Perhaps the site you are truly looking for is ObamaUnderground.com NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #196

Nope, just a site that is for Democrats and not Paul/Nader fans. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #197

what's the connection to alex jones? i'm not seeing it. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #27

seriously? alex jones feeds off of hopemountain Jun 2013 #185

that doesn't mean that any criticism of obama is sponsored by alex jones. however, this HiPointDem Jun 2013 #186

wake up...pretty please BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #71

I guarantee you.... ReRe Jun 2013 #78

Welcome to the New DU... SidDithers Jun 2013 #87

no shit.... madrchsod Jun 2013 #157

exactly right undergroundpanther Jun 2013 #6

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #7

The author of this piece got banned from Daily Kos geek tragedy Jun 2013 #9

There are some limits apparently. TexasTowelie Jun 2013 #18

i don't see anything about his being banned when i go to his profile page. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #39

The mojo indicator is a skull and crossbones. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #50

"AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service" Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #10

Jury should have been informed that the author/troll of the 'article' was banned over at DailyKos Tx4obama Jun 2013 #12

Why would that matter? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #13

Because if even DailyKos thought the article author was a troll then no one here should be... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #24

Because "trolls" are lying disrupters. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #88

i don't see anything about his banning on his profile page. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #41

he hasn't posted for four days hfojvt Jun 2013 #46

what is mojo? HiPointDem Jun 2013 #47

Site karma. The DU equivalent is a combination of posting privileges and jury selection % (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #54

I agree treestar Jun 2013 #97

It's looking that way jberryhill Jun 2013 #128

No, I say let the nader light expose him or herself for what they are, a fool that believes in all still_one Jun 2013 #134

I was just about to say it looks like they put the diarist's ass on a platter and handed it back to Number23 Jun 2013 #171

The jury is to evaluate the post as it stands, not on what you think about the character rhett o rick Jun 2013 #194

NOT the DU poster. The AUTHOR of the article. The AUTHOR of the article was... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #195

Thanks for letting me know TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #72

Thank you for your service. ucrdem Jun 2013 #172

people have a right to thier anger undergroundpanther Jun 2013 #15

He's not alone and the anger is real. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #158

And your reason for posting this BS here would be ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #16

To try and restore democracy to America TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #30

And you plan to accomplish that Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #33

Well toeing the line of the large Corporations and Corporate media sure isn't going to do it. TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #40

Well, posting on a message board Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #42

You do realize that the same applies to any of us? Even you? nt Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #192

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #90

To get a repuke majority in the Senate in 15 months so they can impeach... Amonester Jun 2013 #32

Wow. What troll-droppings are these I see before me? Hekate Jun 2013 #17

I notice you are not trying to argue against the contents of the Daily Kos article TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #20

No, when I see troll-shit I don't bother either discussing or shooting. Hekate Jun 2013 #22

Maybe you should take a look at Professor Lawrence Lessig's "Chesters" TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #23

Another garbage post. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

DU is a F*****G FRAUD Hekate Jun 2013 #26

I could hardly believe that was you! pnwmom Jun 2013 #28

Insane times call for insane acts, or something like that Hekate Jun 2013 #29

+1 madrchsod Jun 2013 #159

Post it again WITHOUT THE STARS!! C'mon! Do it! Don't censor yourself Number23 Jun 2013 #173

Oh you bad bad girl Hekate Jun 2013 #174

! Number23 Jun 2013 #176

Backatcha Hekate Jun 2013 #179

I really don't understand the appeal of that KOS post blogslut Jun 2013 #31

Why is this the second time it's been posted here? mick063 Jun 2013 #38

Oh dear blogslut Jun 2013 #43

I love that play Recursion Jun 2013 #52

He watched everybody get their heads chopped off from his cell blogslut Jun 2013 #57

But he hated the anonymity of it more than the brutality Recursion Jun 2013 #58

For me, I think it's not the change that is the harm... blogslut Jun 2013 #61

Agreed LittleBlue Jun 2013 #44

Isn't that Cat Woman's line from Dark Knight Rises? Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #139

On Kos, it's against the rules to cuss in a diary title. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #82

After reading some of the mercymechap Jun 2013 #34

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #37

I gave you 2100 last summer. You said Whisp Jun 2013 #36

Another outrage junkie. How boring. intaglio Jun 2013 #45

No. Just a shit-stirrer. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #94

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #48

I was the one who posted this earlier and had it voted down 5-1. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #49

all politicians are corporatist MFM008 Jun 2013 #51

Agreed - all but a handful in Congress are Corporatists TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #75

When George Carlin said the same thing Fearless Jun 2013 #53

I always found Carlin tiresome when he got on that rant, personally Recursion Jun 2013 #59

Well judging by the 4 million views of that video Fearless Jun 2013 #62

I'm glad I don't judge ideas by popularity (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #63

The original statement was a judgement of popularity Fearless Jun 2013 #66

Then you'll get what you deserve come 2014. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #161

you mean like...voting? burnodo Jun 2013 #167

LOL, of course you did! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #141

Extremely good point :D Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #73

"I've got one that can SEE!" Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #65

The mouth foaming continues. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #70

Oh... it's YOU! lamp_shade Jun 2013 #74

Lawrence Lessig was also on Bill Moyers... ReRe Jun 2013 #76

I just watched the video. It's brilliant. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #151

Thank you. ReRe Jun 2013 #164

Fraud SamKnause Jun 2013 #77

Yes --if we don't want to single out Obama marions ghost Jun 2013 #91

Fraud 2 SamKnause Jun 2013 #123

Am in agreement with you marions ghost Jun 2013 #126

Kicking without comment. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #79

The corporate megalomaniacs chervilant Jun 2013 #84

Lots of comments on how crummy the post is, near nothing on what the post says. Octafish Jun 2013 #85

The one thing people hate above all else Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #99

Besides stating that elections don't matter and that civil rights issues are a conspiracy geek tragedy Jun 2013 #107

sadly, most will gladly keep the wool over their eyes Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #95

... SidDithers Jun 2013 #101

Sadly, hatred of Obama and advocating against voting for Democrats is no longer geek tragedy Jun 2013 #109

Might as well throw out the TOS and openly allow Republicans to post here... SidDithers Jun 2013 #111

Ratfucking is more effective in undermining the Left. Question- why is the left so prone to Ratfucki KittyWampus Jun 2013 #143

At least Kos still has standards Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #160

Alert it or quit whining! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #142

It seems you were expecting a better return on your $5,500 investment. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #103

I didn't support Obama in '08, but support him now. I'll pick up the slack for ya. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #104

The most telling line "There's no Republican or Democrats folks" siligut Jun 2013 #108

Welcome to lettherepublicanswin.com nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #110

We just have to call it when we see it and help people maintain perspective siligut Jun 2013 #112

Well, sure, just tell it like it is. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #113

Our big tent and Will Rogers explain some of that siligut Jun 2013 #119

They aren't Democrats. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #120

K&R He sure is. forestpath Jun 2013 #114

I don't think he is a fraud. He is a centrist Democrat that leans right... The Link Jun 2013 #115

CT stupidity strikes again, this time on Daily Kos Progressive dog Jun 2013 #121

Troll much? Botany Jun 2013 #122

ALL of it is a giant fraud, not just the current puppet. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #124

K&R 99Forever Jun 2013 #125

This thread ProSense Jun 2013 #127

I got a message this is was being locked warrior1 Jun 2013 #129

This thread should be locked. It is pure flamebait, and is saying that there is no difference still_one Jun 2013 #135

sure hope so madrchsod Jun 2013 #162

This is a troll diary from Daily Kos. Here is the author's other post ProSense Jun 2013 #130

cry me a fucking river. You like don't his policies, then find someone's policies you do like. But still_one Jun 2013 #131

But I like Britney Spears' couchie peeks! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #140

Lessig talks about big money in politics, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #144

That is a phenomenal TED talk. It ought to have it own thread. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #150

jesus h christ no wonder a lot of good posters left this place madrchsod Jun 2013 #156

I agree. still_one Jun 2013 #163

The OP has been escorted out of the building by Skinner ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #166

This message was brought to us by Infowars and The Daily Paul Liberty Forum: ucrdem Jun 2013 #168

. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #169

One down. About a hun'erd to go... Number23 Jun 2013 #175

Sing it with me ucrdem Jun 2013 #177

That's too funny! Number23 Jun 2013 #178

He took his last left turn ucrdem Jun 2013 #180

Right? Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #183

He should toss the entire rec list out with him. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #181

Yep, the rec list is a who's who of DU disruptors. tridim Jun 2013 #193

What it is... NCLefty Jun 2013 #182

Author has left the building: ucrdem Jun 2013 #165

Clean-up on Aisle 6 has commenced Hekate Jun 2013 #187

Looks like it just went off the greatest page ucrdem Jun 2013 #188

Quelle fromage, as well Hekate Jun 2013 #189

and his "Chesters" ucrdem Jun 2013 #191