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dkf

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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:49 AM Jun 2013

Before this is over, the entire architecture of the Internet will be rebuilt [View all]

Here's why:

A huge proportion of all global Internet traffic flows through networks controlled by the United States. This is because eight of fifteen global tier 1 telecommunications companies are American owned -- companies like AT&T, CenturyLink, and Verizon. Furthermore, the social media services are also mostly provided by giants headquartered in the United States, including Google, Facebook, Yahoo!, and Twitter.

All of these companies are subject to U.S. law, including the provisions of the U.S. Patriot Act, no matter where their services are offered or their servers located.

Having the world's Internet traffic routed through the U.S. and having those telecommunications companies under its jurisdiction compromises the constitutionally guaranteed privacy rights of citizens of all other sovereign nations.



This will end.

The rest of the world will not stand for it.

It's a simple fact and an economic black swan for the US.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/23/1218102/-US-NSA-Accused-of-Criminal-Privacy-Violations-in-Dozens-of-Nations-Snowden-Blowback

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Hell, it's time to get a CB & a HAM radio. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #1
If anyone wants to listen in on HubertHeaver Jun 2013 #2
encrypted packet data nt. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #4
HAM transmissions generally must be in the clear FarCenter Jun 2013 #13
It is standard practice, for seroius HAMs, to record by hand (ie: write down) geckosfeet Jun 2013 #5
Good info! HubertHeaver Jun 2013 #31
We had MARS back in the '80s when I was in Korea MrScorpio Jun 2013 #32
Interesting. That just might happen. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #3
Yeahup... ReRe Jun 2013 #6
i liked the world better before the internet. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #7
the fundamental life blood of commerce is trust KurtNYC Jun 2013 #8
There's nothing wrong with distributing the network more fairly. randome Jun 2013 #9
Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Jarla Jun 2013 #35
Sounds good to me. randome Jun 2013 #36
Are you suggesting that... Jarla Jun 2013 #37
Yup, the internet will be routed through China, Russia, Iceland,Cuba, and Ecuador Progressive dog Jun 2013 #10
Hnk! What's the difference? sibelian Jun 2013 #15
So what do you care if it continues Progressive dog Jun 2013 #26
I would think each country would run its own root DNS server FarCenter Jun 2013 #11
There's been some movement towards that Recursion Jun 2013 #17
Okay, through where will it be routed, Antarctica? nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #12
Who can say? nt sibelian Jun 2013 #16
More likely that an Internet treaty will have to be created to govern it. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #18
You ever see a fiber map before? snooper2 Jun 2013 #25
I could see managing chokepoints as a cash cow for places like Tuvalu Recursion Jun 2013 #20
And...? Why SHOULD the rest of the world stand for it? closeupready Jun 2013 #14
Any country who wants to build the infrastructure is free to Recursion Jun 2013 #19
The US being the "hub" is no accident siligut Jun 2013 #23
We also created the Internet, remember? randome Jun 2013 #24
So what you are saying is that it is our baby, so it is natural that we control it? siligut Jun 2013 #28
Not at all. Just that it wasn't a 'power trip' as you're implying. randome Jun 2013 #33
Well, you don't want to overstate that; it's not 1998 anymore Recursion Jun 2013 #27
There has been discussion here regarding desperate measures to maintain power siligut Jun 2013 #29
And what do you have against black swans? randome Jun 2013 #21
ROFL snooper2 Jun 2013 #22
I would think some of those people outside the US have to communicate into the USA Progressive dog Jun 2013 #30
My prof at school mentioned this, oh, 6 months ago or so laundry_queen Jun 2013 #34
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