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36. Seriously?
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

Most of the tax breaks are really meant to help business, not individuals. Like the mortgage interest tax breaks---help sell houses and mortgages. Safety nets have been cut again and again over the past years. Those laws to help people during the housing crisis were not even enforced...have you heard about robo-signing? Have you heard about all the bankers who were thrown in prison? Or fined? Laws against discrimination are not exactly easy to prove, and there are many obstacles in the way of the accuser, but not the abuser. Consumer laws? Most of the consumer laws are silly, like all the warnings on items you buy (do not put your finger in this fan while it is running). But many of these laws do not protect the consumer from real abuses.

Most of the protections and benefits that we (lower and middle class) have are just window dressing. And occasionally, there is a law that really does help us, and I have to wonder how that law got through. Do not accept that all that is said to be beneficial is really benefiting you.

More transparency and less secretiveness with the NSA, no argument there. randome Jun 2013 #1
Can you support your assertions as to what Snowden is saying? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #2
What did Snowden reveal and what did he not reveal? randome Jun 2013 #3
I asked you to address you specific assertion which I will repeat for you: Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #6
The fact that he has not provided evidence of the NSA watching our thoughts form as we type... randome Jun 2013 #8
I have asked you for evidence Snowden says NSA reads our thoughts. You provided none. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #14
Okay, sorry, I wasn't sure what you were asking. It's in the video. randome Jun 2013 #16
Oh, now you understand and want me to watch some video? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #18
Post #22. randome Jun 2013 #26
I've posted one of many links to that part of his story. I can't believe anyone would claim okaawhatever Jun 2013 #20
You might note I have never claimed to be informed on this story. That's why I asked for Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #24
Here you are: okaawhatever Jun 2013 #38
My friend, all the capabilities that you mention, any relatively capable AverageMe Jun 2013 #28
Of course they CAN spy on anyone they want. randome Jun 2013 #30
If Google and Microsoft can complete your thoughts even as you type pscot Jun 2013 #41
I don't think the capitalist overlords are calling the shots at the NSA. randome Jun 2013 #44
I'll help -- here is the transcript. Point us to the Harry Potter crap please. KurtNYC Jun 2013 #4
My list in post #3 has all the unsupported claims by Snowden. randome Jun 2013 #9
Where is it in this transcript? I'm not free to watch your videos Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #21
Post #22. I may have been mistaken about it being in the video. randome Jun 2013 #23
The level of dishonesty is really stunning. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #10
What dishonesty? I listed Snowden's claims that are unsupported by any evidence. randome Jun 2013 #12
Again, you refuse to provide evidence for your claim: Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #15
It's in the video reference above. randome Jun 2013 #17
I'm not watching video clips to find that which you should offer. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #19
Yeah, I don't blame you. randome Jun 2013 #22
No offense but that link is not exactly a trusted source, nor does it cite it's source for Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #27
The Business Insider has more info. randome Jun 2013 #32
DU is basically my entire source for this story, and as usual for me the story is secondary Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #33
I know, I know. And my bullet points about Snowden are a synthesis of all I've heard about him. randome Jun 2013 #34
Some right here Progressive dog Jun 2013 #13
Did you know a hacker can watch what you type AverageMe Jun 2013 #7
Of course they can. What does that have to do with the NSA? randome Jun 2013 #11
With our current government, if you don't support Snowden and others like him A Simple Game Jun 2013 #37
He really only 'revealed' two things. randome Jun 2013 #43
Thank you AverageMe. Do you have a link for this comment ? Catherina Jun 2013 #5
Do not have a link, it was just a comment like here AverageMe Jun 2013 #31
It's an exaggeration to say they help only the rich treestar Jun 2013 #25
There are actually no laws against discrimination against LGBT people and we are not Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #29
Seriously? Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #36
They could give two shits about Snowden Rain Mcloud Jun 2013 #35
Trust in power is an odd concept,trust is faith,faith is intentional irrationality. Power corrupts! Civilization2 Jun 2013 #39
It used to be the 1% realized they had to throw some bones to the Cleita Jun 2013 #42
Did anyone watch the "Ed Show" BrainMann1 Jun 2013 #40
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