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liberal_at_heart

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229. well I'm glad you have had such a positive experience. Not all of us are so lucky.

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 06:25 PM

Jun 2013

Right now I'm paying $925/month in insurance premiums and the copays go to collections. My father just dropped everything but hospital coverage on his Medicaire plan because he couldn't make the premium on that. We are a long, long, long, long way away from having universal healthcare, and letting the insurance companies help write the ACA will only make that much longer before we do. Like I said I would never tell you how to vote. I wish I could say I receive the same courtesy from other democrats(not you, just saying some democrats try to bully others into who to vote for). I have become a single issue voter, that issue being education. I will only vote for democrats willing to restore full funding to public education, and unfortunately right now, I don't see any democrats willing to do that.

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DOMA gone. DADT gone. Iraq War gone. Universal Health Care - coming soon, Economy - coming back [View all] arely staircase Jun 2013 OP

yeah but what has he done for us lately? Schema Thing Jun 2013 #1

Awsome. The 80 something innocents who have been locked up in in Guantanamo Bay for 10 years GoneFishin Jun 2013 #18

no one is permitted to enjoy any fucking acheivements Sheepshank Jun 2013 #143

Getting yourself in good with the NSA, I see. Hope President HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #24

quite the busy eleven days arely staircase Jun 2013 #36

I love Obama, but as long a the NSA program AverageMe Jun 2013 #98

I just never know what to say when someone says they're a single issue voter -- gateley Jun 2013 #184

I'm a single issue voter. My single issue is education. Who can I vote for? I don't know. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #197

Whoever volunteers to solve the problem. sibelian Jun 2013 #198

Whoever was against this program AverageMe Jun 2013 #218

lt's ongoing Progress that wasn't the POINT of the OP. She clearly stated Cha Jun 2013 #228

But Obama is taking our 'freedoms' away railsback Jun 2013 #2

Yes, I heard AverageMe Jun 2013 #107

I call it the Sorkin Delusion Recursion Jun 2013 #3

+1 DCBob Jun 2013 #29

The unemployment rate in Los Angeles is currently over 11% (in some areas of Watts and Compton, it HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #30

If it's counterbalanced by negative increments or sweeping regressive moves... sibelian Jun 2013 #123

+1 Progressive dog Jun 2013 #166

We'll never know. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #180

that's pretty good arely staircase Jun 2013 #237

wow, if only things were really that rosy quinnox Jun 2013 #4

right on time arely staircase Jun 2013 #5

Not satisfied with his stable of ponies, he now wants better ponies. tridim Jun 2013 #59

So you want us to return to war in Skidmore Jun 2013 #6

That is a strange reaction. No, the point is, Iraq is still in chaos and hasn't "gone away" just quinnox Jun 2013 #11

Like USAID maybe? snooper2 Jun 2013 #14

FYI.. we are spending hundreds of millions on non-military programs there. DCBob Jun 2013 #37

What do you think the US President* should do about Iraq? MH1 Jun 2013 #9

Massive reparations for the Iraqi people and war crimes trials for HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #78

How much will you raise taxes to pay for the reparations? MH1 Jun 2013 #262

Every Iraqi who was killed, wounded or displaced (whether internally HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #264

So until judgment rendered by World Court, no reparations? MH1 Jun 2013 #266

I see reparations proceedings and war crimes trials happening simultaneously. The President is HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #267

Bless your heart. nt AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #10

the truth hurts quinnox Jun 2013 #13

Hypocrite much? AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #17

that has nothing to do with this OP quinnox Jun 2013 #22

think harder AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #23

Double standards are tough aren't they? Thanks for pointing that one out. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #46

obvious troll is obvious AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #55

I'm right there with ya! I just found the "concern" very interesting. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #63

Agreed. These two points are great. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #190

and a third that I forgot to mention ... AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #234

Yep. Agreed. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #242

Uh oh! HappyMe Jun 2013 #69

yes indeed AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #233

it clearly does arely staircase Jun 2013 #25

Obama land, aka REALITY. Obama is the President of the United States. tridim Jun 2013 #60

true, I will correct my post to make it clearer what I meant quinnox Jun 2013 #89

I see you've got the market cornered on REALITY. Phlem Jun 2013 #207

Cool story dude. tridim Jun 2013 #210

Sure thing Mr. Reality Phlem Jun 2013 #212

They get angry when you inject a little realism into their cartoon. Marr Jun 2013 #165

tell me about it quinnox Jun 2013 #169

Maybe its just my bias tainting my perception of it, but there really seems to be this Marr Jun 2013 #175

Nope, you nailed it quinnox Jun 2013 #179

It's becoming increasingly weird. sibelian Jun 2013 #200

Try post # 60 Phlem Jun 2013 #211

Meaninglessness is irrefutable. sibelian Jun 2013 #213

Is that how it seems? treestar Jun 2013 #246

Did you miss my question, right above AtomicKitten's post? MH1 Jun 2013 #263

If you don't have something nice to say snooper2 Jun 2013 #12

lol, you first quinnox Jun 2013 #15

So? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #16

Yup. HappyMe Jun 2013 #19

ok, well maybe you don't care, but I do quinnox Jun 2013 #21

Well, maybe he had to do that for his political career. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #28

ok... quinnox Jun 2013 #32

I'm pretty sure you're beyond help. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #34

I see what you did there. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #215

no, it's not AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #232

Shhhhh... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #236

:spits wine all over monitor: treestar Jun 2013 #247

Well, we can't bring Saddam or the Iran/Iraq war back jberryhill Jun 2013 #31

great, so now we just wash our hands and say to hell with them quinnox Jun 2013 #41

Saddam suppressed a lot of internal conflict jberryhill Jun 2013 #260

I think the Brits should fix the mess they've made there first, then send 'em cheneybu$h. Amonester Jun 2013 #272

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #38

wow i feel honored arely staircase Jun 2013 #48

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #53

omg, this is the most awesome thing ever arely staircase Jun 2013 #66

Person posted a fact backed up with a link HangOnKids Jun 2013 #82

are you kidding? attack mode? arely staircase Jun 2013 #91

Poor thing. HangOnKids Jun 2013 #93

It was a troll. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #252

I have had a few of those, and they are, likewise, gone. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #204

lol arely staircase Jun 2013 #225

Bingo. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #52

Get ready to be attacked by the incoming drones of bullshit HangOnKids Jun 2013 #88

Incoming Drones of Bullshit arely staircase Jun 2013 #95

No you didn't HangOnKids Jun 2013 #99

did too arely staircase Jun 2013 #103

Please keep posting till the cows come home HangOnKids Jun 2013 #124

buh bye arely staircase Jun 2013 #126

Why are you always so mean to people? hrmjustin Jun 2013 #127

Are we friends? Because you seem real interested in what I have to say HangOnKids Jun 2013 #134

No we are not friends. But I was following my friends OP. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #138

Justin Get Lost HangOnKids Jun 2013 #139

A typical response from you. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #140

Ahhh Do You Haz A Sad? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #147

Again typical! So how do I have people fooled? hrmjustin Jun 2013 #148

Bye Bye HangOnKids Jun 2013 #152

Yeah I have sinned by posting too much and liking DU! Sorry if you feel I am wasting your hrmjustin Jun 2013 #154

I am kind and nice to people who are REAL HangOnKids Jun 2013 #158

So I am not real? Again typical from you. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #161

I imagine we often predicate our own kindness on that of others LanternWaste Jun 2013 #167

Whatever HangOnKids Jun 2013 #170

I always try to be kind here. I fall short at times. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #216

Don't I know! HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #96

What are you the Dem's version of? tridim Jun 2013 #132

Bernie Saunders. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #153

So you're saying that I'm a teabagger and you're Bernie Saunders[sic]? Check. tridim Jun 2013 #164

bernie saUnders - arely staircase Jun 2013 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author tridim Jun 2013 #195

The hockey player? tridim Jun 2013 #201

EVER might be a bit strong.... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #206

who is, saunders? arely staircase Jun 2013 #208

Okay, I give up. Learn to spell dude. tridim Jun 2013 #209

awe, I was kinda hoping to keep that one going awhile. arely staircase Jun 2013 #217

You say "dear leader" about a Democratic president Progressive dog Jun 2013 #172

About 4 weeks or so there were people who were screaming about the president davidpdx Jun 2013 #253

There are a lot of party loyalists who need emotions running high. sibelian Jun 2013 #202

And a lot of Karl Rove's Paid Fake "Progressives" stirring up shit when good things do happen emulatorloo Jun 2013 #219

Well, I don't know about that. sibelian Jun 2013 #243

That's an excellent analysis of the strategy emulatorloo Jun 2013 #244

I don't think anyone suggested we won an ideal world. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #40

You have made very insightful observations. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #182

VRA gone... cynatnite Jun 2013 #7

Of course. but today is a good day with DOMA being struck down. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #39

I will most definitely take the good days. :) n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #44

Any day (like today) when the cause of human equality and HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #83

k&R Whisp Jun 2013 #8

Yeah, but apart from all that, what have the Romans done for us?...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #20

perfect arely staircase Jun 2013 #27

LOL!!! Perfect. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #58

Well of course the ROADS! The roads go without saying! (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #62

Provided a clue or two or three to where we ourselves are headed, if we are not careful? RC Jun 2013 #87

'Universal Health Care' isn't coming soon. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #26

Obama aint shit!! (he didn't light his hair on fire or nothin) /sarcasm <-cause this is needed here uponit7771 Jun 2013 #33

lol arely staircase Jun 2013 #49

The Economy coming back... MattSh Jun 2013 #35

really? arely staircase Jun 2013 #45

Really? The Consumer Confidence Index? DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #81

jobs? regards uponit7771 Jun 2013 #51

Amazing how so many Democrats cant see that. DCBob Jun 2013 #42

And brava! to Wendy Davis for showing Dems what a real filibuster looks like. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #43

yep 12:02 am, baby! arely staircase Jun 2013 #50

+1 SunSeeker Jun 2013 #135

I'm very pleased with those things while there's still work to be done on other things Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #47

That's great! DevonRex Jun 2013 #72

K/R CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #54

Very well said. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #56

While I think there are two major flaws in your op... NCTraveler Jun 2013 #57

I love it-- librechik Jun 2013 #61

Obama inherited a nightmare, his recovery efforts were masterful, and it is a great start think Jun 2013 #64

DOMA - gone because of the Supreme Court DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #65

beautiful arely staircase Jun 2013 #68

Nothing I wrote is incorrect which is why you didn't try to refute any of it. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #71

why would i want to try to refute something as pristine as that? arely staircase Jun 2013 #73

LOL. When you can't refute, just make shit up! DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #77

Where did the poster brag on Bush? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #84

!!!!!1111 tridim Jun 2013 #80

you do know OBama appointed justices which helped to overturn that, and if Gore had been President JI7 Jun 2013 #181

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #251

Kick! Rec! Love! Hekate Jun 2013 #67

But but but, watch out.... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2013 #70

Universal healthcare is coming soon? When is "soon"? nt harmonicon Jun 2013 #74

Mandated Universal Health Insurance Premiums leftstreet Jun 2013 #75

While DOMA and DADT may be gone, Universal Health Care still has a long way to go before we get that RC Jun 2013 #76

There are many insurance companies that are playing ball... tridim Jun 2013 #79

You wrote "there are many insurance companies that are playing ball"... Dawgs Jun 2013 #100

I guess you haven't read about inurance premiums falling in CA because of the ACA? tridim Jun 2013 #113

I did and the fact that you still believe insurance companies are playing ball scares me. Dawgs Jun 2013 #205

The health insurance companies ARE the problem. RC Jun 2013 #104

And they are the ones that will negotiate prices DOWN with hospitals. tridim Jun 2013 #111

Glad you have faith in those greedy corporatist bastards. I sure don't. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #114

Your premiums will begin to go down as the ACA is implimented across the country. tridim Jun 2013 #116

whatever you say. I'll believe it when I see it. I will also keep pushing for true Universal liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #118

It is ALREADY HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA tridim Jun 2013 #128

you don't pay my bills. I will believe it when my bill goes down. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #130

You people? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #150

Those of us who don't worship Obama and his historic, epic, legendary ACA. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #151

No, actually, that is incorrect. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #194

Brauhahahahahahahahahahaha RC Jun 2013 #121

You should really read the law sometime. nt tridim Jun 2013 #125

Yeah let's not worry about the fact that minorities are fucked LynneSin Jun 2013 #85

Excuse me--Universal Health Care is not on the agenda, let alone the horizon Demeter Jun 2013 #86

Don't let the fact that DOMA is "gone" Coccydynia Jun 2013 #90

or better yet, just fucking hate everything. arely staircase Jun 2013 #97

I love Bernie Sanders. I love Elizabeth Warren. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #115

obama suporters = sycophants? arely staircase Jun 2013 #119

Well Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #254

an improvement arely staircase Jun 2013 #255

Yep....they throw a bone with one hand zeemike Jun 2013 #117

Same thing happened with DADT. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #156

And Obama could have closed Gitmo the same way zeemike Jun 2013 #162

Wow. A kindred spirit. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #177

As usual, you completely miss the point. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #131

A case makes it to the Supremes INDEPENDENT of POTUS Coccydynia Jun 2013 #157

Here, lemme help. jeff47 Jun 2013 #222

I understand how a justice lands on the court. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #223

The Iraqis kicked us out after Obama tried to stay LittleBlue Jun 2013 #186

I pay $925/month in medical insurance premiums. We do not have Universal Healthcare. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #92

Both parties want to cut Social Security and food stamps. forestpath Jun 2013 #94

"Universal Health Care"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dawgs Jun 2013 #101

that is the one that got me too quinnox Jun 2013 #109

Economy, Not So Much cantbeserious Jun 2013 #102

Nope. Economic inequality is still widening. Orsino Jun 2013 #106

Roger That On Income Inequality cantbeserious Jun 2013 #214

actually, there is some good news on income arely staircase Jun 2013 #274

Beside the point. Orsino Jun 2013 #275

good news is never beside the point arely staircase Jun 2013 #276

Yes. Yes, it sometimes is beside the point. Orsino Jun 2013 #278

granted, for some people it always is arely staircase Jun 2013 #279

Economy - coming back???? Dawgs Jun 2013 #105

Universal Health Care?!? NoOneMan Jun 2013 #108

What utter bullshit from the Third Way Ministry of Propaganda. woo me with science Jun 2013 #110

Excellent response NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #133

wow. fantastic post. Thank you for mentioning Race to the Top. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #141

Thank you, Woo, for writing a post that I was too tired to write. (Mine wouldn't have been as Nay Jun 2013 #145

Holy shit, guess I should've voted for Rmoney! mountain grammy Jun 2013 #155

how about a democrat who will fight for campaign finance reform? liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #160

ok, let's nominate one. Meantime, I'll back the one I got! mountain grammy Jun 2013 #185

go ahead. I'm not going to tell you not to. But I'm done supporting democrats who support a liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #189

I support Democrats, regardless. In America today, I have to. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #221

+1000 Amonester Jun 2013 #273

Well, there is always "The List" (insert dramatic derision music here). Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #199

Agree. Personally, I think the ACA will be a good start towards real universal health care. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #227

well I'm glad you have had such a positive experience. Not all of us are so lucky. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #229

Education is an important issue for me too and as soon as I find a candidate who will fully restore mountain grammy Jun 2013 #238

+1 Marr Jun 2013 #168

+1 zeemike Jun 2013 #171

Thanks, Obama: ProSense Jun 2013 #176

Speaking of "propaganda" ProSense Jun 2013 #187

+1, although to me it was more like a Miss America contestant answer Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #240

wow, you put a lot of time into all that. arely staircase Jun 2013 #271

One tiny caveat. Orsino Jun 2013 #277

DOMA was the SJC, DADT was an appellate court, the Iraq War is still being waged, and health care Fearless Jun 2013 #112

But But But Phlem Jun 2013 #120

Defend this...... Hotler Jun 2013 #122

Now *there's* a stinky turd in the punchbowl! forestpath Jun 2013 #174

Fuckin' A. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #129

Don't worry, I never let anyone else make up my mind for me. Rex Jun 2013 #136

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #137

Like any president there are things he does I like and things I don't The Straight Story Jun 2013 #142

Universal Health Care is a long way from coming. Bake Jun 2013 #144

It's official: Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #146

I have my issues with the President, but will rec this post mountain grammy Jun 2013 #149

Yes, I can imagine some criminal republicans running the country Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #241

Of course both parties aren't the same. LWolf Jun 2013 #159

4th Amendment gone, stable climate going, corporate surveillance state coming... villager Jun 2013 #163

Don't you think it's a little distasteful to try to claim this as an Obama accomplishment? Marr Jun 2013 #173

President Obama instructed the DOJ to stop defending DOMA. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #192

The DOJ does whatever the hell they want to. They ignore Obama's directives all the time. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #193

nope arely staircase Jun 2013 #220

Oh so there IS a separation of powers treestar Jun 2013 #248

What are you talking about? Marr Jun 2013 #250

So you are not one of those blaming Obama that there is no single payer plan treestar Jun 2013 #256

But you'd never know reading GD here at DU malaise Jun 2013 #178

k/r Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #183

this article seems to be at odds with your assertion of our economy. Phlem Jun 2013 #191

but but but lapfog_1 Jun 2013 #196

All those unfulfilled promises, like teaching us all how drill a jumpshot. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #203

I never do, arely, I never do! Cha Jun 2013 #224

And you know what DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #226

When is Universal Health Care coming? City Lights Jun 2013 #230

How's he doing on jobs? Phlem Jun 2013 #231

Thanks. Too bad your hopeful OP was (unsuccessfully) hijacked by a few of the perpetually miserable. great white snark Jun 2013 #235

This is my feeling about today. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #245

Perpetually miserable is right treestar Jun 2013 #249

LOL, "universal health care, economy coming back" Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #239

I like the way you think! Number23 Jun 2013 #257

Four out of five ain't bad Taverner Jun 2013 #258

Obama is such a slacker........... Historic NY Jun 2013 #259

DOMA not gone MNBrewer Jun 2013 #261

right... so resume the bashing. DCBob Jun 2013 #265

A thread like this *is* going to attract the DU trolls...eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #269

Wouldn't want to let factual inaccuracies be perpetuated on DU. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #280

4.5 Accomplishments in 5.5 years 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #268

Agreed! Rooting for the Dems Jun 2013 #270