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In reply to the discussion: Has Glenn Greenwald become the Conscience of our Nation? Jeremy Scahill of The Nation thinks so! [View all]
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)76. LOL, you've been watching too much CNN.
Not healthy. What you missed is that A) metadata collection isn't spying and b) it's legal. Here, watch this presser from three weeks ago and start catching up:
Bush-Cheney acted recklessly and lawlessly and also managed to set up an entirely new security infrastructure that hadn't existed under Clinton. All Congressionally sanctioned and all in place when BO took office. Obama a) hasn't acted recklessly and lawlessly and b) hasn't expanded the security establishment. And he's instituted oversight and legality where it was lacking. Listen to what he had to say about electronic surveillance on Friday, June 7, starting at the reporter's question at 11:45, and you'll see what I'm talking about:
Even if you disagree with the policy there's no way Obama's handling of it aligns with Bush's. And executing US policy is his constitutional responsibility.
Even if you disagree with the policy there's no way Obama's handling of it aligns with Bush's. And executing US policy is his constitutional responsibility.
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Has Glenn Greenwald become the Conscience of our Nation? Jeremy Scahill of The Nation thinks so! [View all]
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
OP
Snowden is not even close to a Paul Revere, Snowden is a scumbag, thief and now charged with
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#3
Love it or leave it,looks like Snowden made the best choice for the USA. You can't dine with
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#13
or stay and be tortured, and caged for the rest of your life, or until you are executed.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#16
If you think you are being tortured in the USA, then you need to spend some time in other
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#25
I don't have a dog in this thread, but I will jump out and say that sounds like the kind of false
silvershadow
Jun 2013
#30
No one should have to continue ton live in the US if they feel they do not like what happens here,
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#65
I didn't have a question. You are right about having the freedom, at least in theory, to leave. I
silvershadow
Jun 2013
#74
I have read some of these types of opinions on libertarian and rw sites, it is also posted
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#75
This next period of time, I believe, will be the most trying in the history of our nation. Maybe I
silvershadow
Jun 2013
#85
Can you look at periods of history and overlook the trying periods? This sure is not the first, not
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#87
I didn't see you leaving when Bush signed the USA Enabling (I mean USA Patriot) Act that enabled
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#91
I survived Bush as governor of Texas and president of the US. I knew he would be gone and
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#100
There is this funny thing called the Constitution. And with it, comes the 4th amendment
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#103
Has the Fourth Amendment changes since 9/11, no. The amendement does not change because
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#115
If I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear. How Free Republic style that argument is
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#120
Not misreading. Look at Post #13. . .your first line and your first few words.
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#119
True, those who hate our Constitution and refuse to abide by it, are free to leave anytime. People
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#111
Not me, the whistle blowers... but we are both being spied on by our gov. and PAYING for it!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#32
I did not realize you are being held against your will in the USA, if you are being held
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#70
There's that America, love it or leave it crap again. Free Republic is just a click away.
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#122
You read with severe tunnel vision, i am not complainingabout living in the USA, a few others are,
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#134
The ones whining about surveillance and does not like the way the Constitution is written needs
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#166
If you had an inch of a clue of who a rw would be and think you would know I am not a rw so
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#153
I live overseas now and have since 2007. My name on DU is because of that fact
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#123
Wow, that should be on a motivational poster and sold through the DU Patriot Megastore
MNBrewer
Jun 2013
#79
I alerted this clown. Apparently, spouting Republican mantra like Love it or Leave is now
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#105
Bush NSA policy= bad. Obama NSA policy (which is Bush's policy) = good! Who needs a 4th
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#89
Snowden is also a Libertarian of the GiGi ilk and he shouldn't be praised on DU
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#108
His initials. I didn't think I had to explain this to you or the other GEEGEE fans
BlueCaliDem
Jun 2013
#172
When People Fear The Government, Tyranny Prevails - When Government Fears The People, Liberty Prevails
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#162
Paul Revere was a traitor, He would have been hanged if he had caught. So what is your
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#168
Do you realize that cutting off speech for Corps means cutting off the ACLU, unions,
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#29
Most advocay groups and unions are incorporated. You cut of GE, you cut off Planned Parenthood.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#37
That is true. But it does not negate the fact that if you cut off GE, you cut off Planned Parenthood
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#45
No it isn't irrelevant. You outlaw speech of GE, you outlaw speech of Planned Parenthood.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#71
Speech IS money, to which Planned Parenthood is now at a severe disadvantage.
railsback
Jun 2013
#77
Banning speech of those who have the most money also bans speech for those who have less.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#86
Planned Parenthood is incorporated. A crazy fact. NOW is incorporated. Another crazy fact.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#48
"..weird how folks who break actual stories that impact all our lives get so viciously attacked"
railsback
Jun 2013
#31
Greenwald is our Edward R Murrow and WAlter Cronkite, and Snowden is the Chinese guy who stood up
JI7
Jun 2013
#33
“News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising.” Lord Northcliffe
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#43
Only ensuring that the troops will rush to the nearest library or internet cafe
Catherina
Jun 2013
#49
Putting something "off limits" for the troops is like an invitation to find it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#56
Ah, so now two of our most intrepid investigative reporters are compared to infamous spys
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#54
Yes, Greenwald IS one of those few who are the conscience of this country. That is why those with no
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#109
Especially news that is fundamental to our democracy, and rights. not gossip, or press releases from
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#131
knr - and like with Paul Revere - the fate of a nation rides with him tonight
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#129
Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#161
