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Birders fake birds death to discredit wind power [View all] WestStar Jun 2013 OP

ACTUAL HEADLINE: Birdwatchers see rare white-throated needletail fly into turbine on Harris nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1

ACTUAL HEADLINE from youtube link this goes to "Demise of the needletail" uppityperson Jun 2013 #8

Nadin gave the BBC headline muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #12

Let's make this really, really clear: that bird is not an endangered or threatened species. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #23

Let's make this very clear. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #24

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #25

Once again nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #26

Fine. Power lines kill birds. Birds have flown into my windows and parked car and killed themselves. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #28

Birds are bright nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #48

Awesome. Birds are friggin' geniuses. I don't give a damn. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #68

Wind power has issues whether you like it or not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #69

Agreed. But I don't like being lied to or manipulated in an effort to prove that point. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #71

Alas the story stated a fact nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #76

"The bird is rare were it was sighted." Not what it said. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #80

Not opponent of wind power nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #91

There seems to be a lot of anti-wind and green tech going around maddezmom Jun 2013 #93

In some ways, I find being manipulated by a focused campaign more forgivable than willful ignorance. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #101

Yes, and this is a valuable bird siligut Jun 2013 #103

There is no reason to believe the claim in the OP that the story is made up muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #108

Agree, the OP is spreading his own bias here maddezmom Jun 2013 #110

I think that she is an opponent of the blades and a proponent of the new bladeless wind turbine. djean111 Jun 2013 #115

precisely nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #126

If you read the article, Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #109

Bald eagles RudynJack Jun 2013 #30

That is why killing one comes with, heavy, heavy fines nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #33

So you're switching your claim now RudynJack Jun 2013 #35

No I am not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #43

Doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about the endangered status of bald eagles... SidDithers Jun 2013 #52

Personal experience has nothing to do with it. RudynJack Jun 2013 #54

You go argue with the act nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #58

So you're just gonna double-down RudynJack Jun 2013 #62

I said they were protected nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #63

No, you said they were endangered... SidDithers Jun 2013 #65

Anybody can RudynJack Jun 2013 #87

I said protected, have a wonderful, long life in my ignore list nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #89

It looks like you said 'endangered' bike man Jun 2013 #97

Maybe "Bold" eagles are so endangered, DevonRex Jun 2013 #117

Bold eagles are the most susceptible treestar Jun 2013 #136

I'm proud to join RudynJack Jun 2013 #116

So you ignore people who call you out in factual errors? Squeegee Jun 2013 #121

you also have an issue withprotected i guess nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #123

then RudynJack Jun 2013 #124

The facts... Squeegee Jun 2013 #129

You argue with congress over the meaning of the Act that protects these nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #130

Not arguing about what Congress does Squeegee Jun 2013 #131

No. RudynJack Jun 2013 #132

No, you didn't say protected. You twice denied saying endangered, but here it is: bike man Jun 2013 #133

Even your own link says bald eagles are not endangered...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #64

She's talking about BOLD eagles tho. DevonRex Jun 2013 #118

!!! zappaman Jun 2013 #120

!!!!! DevonRex Jun 2013 #122

They are covered under a different law. alarimer Jun 2013 #96

Which I noted bellow nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #98

To be fair, bold eagles are indeed very, very rare...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #49

Indeed! RudynJack Jun 2013 #60

I agree but yes they are protected truegrit44 Jun 2013 #125

Do you mean CEQA? That's California-specific, NEPA would be the relevant act petronius Jun 2013 #46

Both...since many of these projects nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #50

Bald eagles aren't endangered Sgent Jun 2013 #79

They are covered by this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #92

Don't domestic cats kill far more birds than windmills ever will, by a factor of 10,000 or greater? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #44

How many hawks and eagles do house kitties nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #53

Unless it is this kitty Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #111

Well that is the exception to every rule nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #112

Sorry, the bird is rare in the Western Isles n/t intaglio Jun 2013 #38

No, no, no. That is NOT what the OP implied at all. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #40

You're talking bollocks muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #55

Not playing your game. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #66

You are so wrong, in all aspects, that it's laughable muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #70

"The quote is the OP explicitly says the bird is rare in Britain." BULLSHIT! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #72

"only been recorded five times in the UK since 1950" - again. For the hard of reading. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #95

Basically, you could not be bothered to read intaglio Jun 2013 #73

Same challenge to you as the poster above: Cut the nonsense and provide the quote. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #74

2nd paragraph intaglio Jun 2013 #78

and nowhere does it say that the bird is not rare. It say it is rare, which has strong implications. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #83

In other words you were wrong n/t intaglio Jun 2013 #84

LOL! No. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #86

Caption are often inaccurate due to space limitations. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #113

They're rare in Britain XemaSab Jun 2013 #105

Indeed Aerows Jun 2013 #56

Interesting. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen, but that doesn't mtpscwriter Jun 2013 #2

Welcome to DU! XemaSab Jun 2013 #11

Your title line needs one of thse at the end "?" DURHAM D Jun 2013 #3

i assume you are being sarcastic n/t Enrique Jun 2013 #4

Or we could continue to pollute the skies and kill us all and the birds (nt) The Straight Story Jun 2013 #5

Don't forget all the chemicals and pesticides Americans throw on their lawns. FSogol Jun 2013 #39

Wind power may cause cancer! zappaman Jun 2013 #6

huh, think you have a case of the woo. how the hell do wind turbines cause cancer loli phabay Jun 2013 #13

Apparently you missed the sarcasm tag on that post. MH1 Jun 2013 #16

lol okay, just kinda blew me away. loli phabay Jun 2013 #18

You missed a couple of awesome threads back in May... SidDithers Jun 2013 #20

doh i remember them now, had a brain fart. problem with working thirty hours straight loli phabay Jun 2013 #21

Here ya go. zappaman Jun 2013 #45

lol. i would be looking out for acme trebuchets if i was them loli phabay Jun 2013 #51

And cliffs that end too soon :D n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #61

Thanks. I'd seen references to the old moon bombing threads a while back winter is coming Jun 2013 #77

You apologists keep referring to the PENETRATION OF MOTHER MOON as a "bombing"... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #29

Wait, I thought it was lunar rape...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #34

The East County News treestar Jun 2013 #15

Coyote clusters (and their noise) cause cancer too! FSogol Jun 2013 #41

see reply #45 n/t zappaman Jun 2013 #47

Thanks ! Missed that the first go-round treestar Jun 2013 #75

They cause cancer too!!1 HappyMe Jun 2013 #7

The link didn't say "Birders fake birds death to discredit wind power" In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #22

Considering your screen name, I don't trust you on this issue. nt Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #31

My username never had anything to do with wind energy. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #36

I assumed so. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #37

Thank you for explaining. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #42

Way to edit the headline to fit a personal agenda... Earth_First Jun 2013 #10

+1 n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #114

reminds me of the otter that was released with the bbc there to film loli phabay Jun 2013 #14

I'm not sure how true the turbine killing bird populations thing is. Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #17

agreed burnodo Jun 2013 #19

I consider myself an environmentalist. Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #90

The problem is serious enough where take permits are issued nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #94

Here is a pretty good article on it. Wind farms, sky scrapers and cats..... maddezmom Jun 2013 #85

Darwin Award! JaneyVee Jun 2013 #27

Wind turbines will be blade-less pretty soon anyway, at least I predict that. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #32

There's already at least one company working on this: Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #67

I dare you to post this in the Birders forum Aerows Jun 2013 #57

I think there should be a push to get tiny helmets for our Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #59

Genius. zappaman Jun 2013 #81

I got two conures nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #99

Hundreds of birds daily get sucked into jet engines The Second Stone Jun 2013 #82

I'm shocked that people would fake the deaths of birds to discredit wind power. Apophis Jun 2013 #88

No-one did - the thread starter made that up. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #106

They should not resort to this. alarimer Jun 2013 #100

Read the original linked article nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #102

This has been a problem forever with windmills thelordofhell Jun 2013 #104

Saying this isn't a problem is just ignorant XemaSab Jun 2013 #107

I blame the bird. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #119

SNOWDEN WORSHIPPER! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #127

Thanks OBAMA treestar Jun 2013 #135

I'm a major proponent of wind power. last1standing Jun 2013 #128

well wingzeroday Jun 2013 #134