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Vinnie From Indy

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59. I think there should be a push to get tiny helmets for our

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:56 AM

Jun 2013

feathered friends. Maybe a Bob Geldoff type international concert event to raise money for outfitting all birds with little crash helmets. There would of course have to be some technological advances to deal with issues like the fact that birds don't have chins where the helmets can be secured with a strap.

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Birders fake birds death to discredit wind power [View all] WestStar Jun 2013 OP

ACTUAL HEADLINE: Birdwatchers see rare white-throated needletail fly into turbine on Harris nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1

ACTUAL HEADLINE from youtube link this goes to "Demise of the needletail" uppityperson Jun 2013 #8

Nadin gave the BBC headline muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #12

Let's make this really, really clear: that bird is not an endangered or threatened species. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #23

Let's make this very clear. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #24

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #25

Once again nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #26

Fine. Power lines kill birds. Birds have flown into my windows and parked car and killed themselves. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #28

Birds are bright nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #48

Awesome. Birds are friggin' geniuses. I don't give a damn. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #68

Wind power has issues whether you like it or not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #69

Agreed. But I don't like being lied to or manipulated in an effort to prove that point. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #71

Alas the story stated a fact nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #76

"The bird is rare were it was sighted." Not what it said. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #80

Not opponent of wind power nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #91

There seems to be a lot of anti-wind and green tech going around maddezmom Jun 2013 #93

In some ways, I find being manipulated by a focused campaign more forgivable than willful ignorance. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #101

Yes, and this is a valuable bird siligut Jun 2013 #103

There is no reason to believe the claim in the OP that the story is made up muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #108

Agree, the OP is spreading his own bias here maddezmom Jun 2013 #110

I think that she is an opponent of the blades and a proponent of the new bladeless wind turbine. djean111 Jun 2013 #115

precisely nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #126

If you read the article, Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #109

Bald eagles RudynJack Jun 2013 #30

That is why killing one comes with, heavy, heavy fines nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #33

So you're switching your claim now RudynJack Jun 2013 #35

No I am not nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #43

Doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about the endangered status of bald eagles... SidDithers Jun 2013 #52

Personal experience has nothing to do with it. RudynJack Jun 2013 #54

You go argue with the act nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #58

So you're just gonna double-down RudynJack Jun 2013 #62

I said they were protected nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #63

No, you said they were endangered... SidDithers Jun 2013 #65

Anybody can RudynJack Jun 2013 #87

I said protected, have a wonderful, long life in my ignore list nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #89

It looks like you said 'endangered' bike man Jun 2013 #97

Maybe "Bold" eagles are so endangered, DevonRex Jun 2013 #117

Bold eagles are the most susceptible treestar Jun 2013 #136

I'm proud to join RudynJack Jun 2013 #116

So you ignore people who call you out in factual errors? Squeegee Jun 2013 #121

you also have an issue withprotected i guess nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #123

then RudynJack Jun 2013 #124

The facts... Squeegee Jun 2013 #129

You argue with congress over the meaning of the Act that protects these nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #130

Not arguing about what Congress does Squeegee Jun 2013 #131

No. RudynJack Jun 2013 #132

No, you didn't say protected. You twice denied saying endangered, but here it is: bike man Jun 2013 #133

Even your own link says bald eagles are not endangered...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #64

She's talking about BOLD eagles tho. DevonRex Jun 2013 #118

!!! zappaman Jun 2013 #120

!!!!! DevonRex Jun 2013 #122

They are covered under a different law. alarimer Jun 2013 #96

Which I noted bellow nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #98

To be fair, bold eagles are indeed very, very rare...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #49

Indeed! RudynJack Jun 2013 #60

I agree but yes they are protected truegrit44 Jun 2013 #125

Do you mean CEQA? That's California-specific, NEPA would be the relevant act petronius Jun 2013 #46

Both...since many of these projects nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #50

Bald eagles aren't endangered Sgent Jun 2013 #79

They are covered by this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #92

Don't domestic cats kill far more birds than windmills ever will, by a factor of 10,000 or greater? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #44

How many hawks and eagles do house kitties nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #53

Unless it is this kitty Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #111

Well that is the exception to every rule nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #112

Sorry, the bird is rare in the Western Isles n/t intaglio Jun 2013 #38

No, no, no. That is NOT what the OP implied at all. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #40

You're talking bollocks muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #55

Not playing your game. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #66

You are so wrong, in all aspects, that it's laughable muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #70

"The quote is the OP explicitly says the bird is rare in Britain." BULLSHIT! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #72

"only been recorded five times in the UK since 1950" - again. For the hard of reading. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #95

Basically, you could not be bothered to read intaglio Jun 2013 #73

Same challenge to you as the poster above: Cut the nonsense and provide the quote. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #74

2nd paragraph intaglio Jun 2013 #78

and nowhere does it say that the bird is not rare. It say it is rare, which has strong implications. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #83

In other words you were wrong n/t intaglio Jun 2013 #84

LOL! No. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #86

Caption are often inaccurate due to space limitations. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #113

They're rare in Britain XemaSab Jun 2013 #105

Indeed Aerows Jun 2013 #56

Interesting. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen, but that doesn't mtpscwriter Jun 2013 #2

Welcome to DU! XemaSab Jun 2013 #11

Your title line needs one of thse at the end "?" DURHAM D Jun 2013 #3

i assume you are being sarcastic n/t Enrique Jun 2013 #4

Or we could continue to pollute the skies and kill us all and the birds (nt) The Straight Story Jun 2013 #5

Don't forget all the chemicals and pesticides Americans throw on their lawns. FSogol Jun 2013 #39

Wind power may cause cancer! zappaman Jun 2013 #6

huh, think you have a case of the woo. how the hell do wind turbines cause cancer loli phabay Jun 2013 #13

Apparently you missed the sarcasm tag on that post. MH1 Jun 2013 #16

lol okay, just kinda blew me away. loli phabay Jun 2013 #18

You missed a couple of awesome threads back in May... SidDithers Jun 2013 #20

doh i remember them now, had a brain fart. problem with working thirty hours straight loli phabay Jun 2013 #21

Here ya go. zappaman Jun 2013 #45

lol. i would be looking out for acme trebuchets if i was them loli phabay Jun 2013 #51

And cliffs that end too soon :D n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #61

Thanks. I'd seen references to the old moon bombing threads a while back winter is coming Jun 2013 #77

You apologists keep referring to the PENETRATION OF MOTHER MOON as a "bombing"... Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #29

Wait, I thought it was lunar rape...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #34

The East County News treestar Jun 2013 #15

Coyote clusters (and their noise) cause cancer too! FSogol Jun 2013 #41

see reply #45 n/t zappaman Jun 2013 #47

Thanks ! Missed that the first go-round treestar Jun 2013 #75

They cause cancer too!!1 HappyMe Jun 2013 #7

The link didn't say "Birders fake birds death to discredit wind power" In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #22

Considering your screen name, I don't trust you on this issue. nt Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #31

My username never had anything to do with wind energy. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #36

I assumed so. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #37

Thank you for explaining. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #42

Way to edit the headline to fit a personal agenda... Earth_First Jun 2013 #10

+1 n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #114

reminds me of the otter that was released with the bbc there to film loli phabay Jun 2013 #14

I'm not sure how true the turbine killing bird populations thing is. Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #17

agreed burnodo Jun 2013 #19

I consider myself an environmentalist. Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #90

The problem is serious enough where take permits are issued nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #94

Here is a pretty good article on it. Wind farms, sky scrapers and cats..... maddezmom Jun 2013 #85

Darwin Award! JaneyVee Jun 2013 #27

Wind turbines will be blade-less pretty soon anyway, at least I predict that. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #32

There's already at least one company working on this: Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #67

I dare you to post this in the Birders forum Aerows Jun 2013 #57

I think there should be a push to get tiny helmets for our Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #59

Genius. zappaman Jun 2013 #81

I got two conures nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #99

Hundreds of birds daily get sucked into jet engines The Second Stone Jun 2013 #82

I'm shocked that people would fake the deaths of birds to discredit wind power. Apophis Jun 2013 #88

No-one did - the thread starter made that up. muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #106

They should not resort to this. alarimer Jun 2013 #100

Read the original linked article nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #102

This has been a problem forever with windmills thelordofhell Jun 2013 #104

Saying this isn't a problem is just ignorant XemaSab Jun 2013 #107

I blame the bird. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #119

SNOWDEN WORSHIPPER! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #127

Thanks OBAMA treestar Jun 2013 #135

I'm a major proponent of wind power. last1standing Jun 2013 #128

well wingzeroday Jun 2013 #134