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134. You read with severe tunnel vision, i am not complainingabout living in the USA, a few others are,

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:46 PM

Jun 2013

I can live with the surveillance, I don't care what conversation is heard on my phone, I don't care if cameras are rolling, I am not doing anything where I would be concerned about espionage or sabotage. I live in a country where there are elections and elections has consequences. If you don't like those who can get along and live along with others then find your utopia it may now t be the USA.

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Has Glenn Greenwald become the Conscience of our Nation? Jeremy Scahill of The Nation thinks so! [View all] usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 OP

Knr dkf Jun 2013 #1

Somebody has to. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #2

+1 nashville_brook Jun 2013 #147

PLUS A BRAZILLION! nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #164

Snowden is not even close to a Paul Revere, Snowden is a scumbag, thief and now charged with Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #3

USA, USA, USA !!!! nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #5

Love it or leave it,looks like Snowden made the best choice for the USA. You can't dine with Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #13

or stay and be tortured, and caged for the rest of your life, or until you are executed. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #16

If you think you are being tortured in the USA, then you need to spend some time in other Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #25

I don't have a dog in this thread, but I will jump out and say that sounds like the kind of false silvershadow Jun 2013 #30

No one should have to continue ton live in the US if they feel they do not like what happens here, Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #65

I didn't have a question. You are right about having the freedom, at least in theory, to leave. I silvershadow Jun 2013 #74

I have read some of these types of opinions on libertarian and rw sites, it is also posted Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #75

This next period of time, I believe, will be the most trying in the history of our nation. Maybe I silvershadow Jun 2013 #85

Can you look at periods of history and overlook the trying periods? This sure is not the first, not Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #87

Is having the a powerful clique within government grabbing all records JDPriestly Jun 2013 #82

I didn't see you leaving when Bush signed the USA Enabling (I mean USA Patriot) Act that enabled Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #91

I survived Bush as governor of Texas and president of the US. I knew he would be gone and Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #100

There is this funny thing called the Constitution. And with it, comes the 4th amendment Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #103

Has the Fourth Amendment changes since 9/11, no. The amendement does not change because Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #115

If I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear. How Free Republic style that argument is Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #120

for reals! nashville_brook Jun 2013 #148

blanket warrants are still unconstitutional questionseverything Jun 2013 #128

Ahhh... I see... 99Forever Jun 2013 #110

go ahead troll, misreading again Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #116

Not misreading. Look at Post #13. . .your first line and your first few words. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #119

good advice marions ghost Jun 2013 #132

This is what is contained in the post, Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #169

Jury Results aikoaiko Jun 2013 #143

True, those who hate our Constitution and refuse to abide by it, are free to leave anytime. People sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #111

+1000000000 nashville_brook Jun 2013 #150

Not me, the whistle blowers... but we are both being spied on by our gov. and PAYING for it! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #32

Sounds like you would be happier somewhere else. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #67

SOunds like you don't have a clue. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #68

I did not realize you are being held against your will in the USA, if you are being held Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #70

There's that America, love it or leave it crap again. Free Republic is just a click away. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #122

amazing how quickly apologist DUers resort to Jingoism nashville_brook Jun 2013 #144

Phil Ochs - Love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #163

sounds like you'd be more comfortable in a place like north korea.. frylock Jun 2013 #83

Did you hear me complaining? Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #101

yes, you're complaining that people don't like the surveillance state.. frylock Jun 2013 #125

You read with severe tunnel vision, i am not complainingabout living in the USA, a few others are, Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #134

and that's what i'm saying. go live with the surveillance somewhere else.. frylock Jun 2013 #160

The ones whining about surveillance and does not like the way the Constitution is written needs Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #166

i really don't know ummmm..... hunh?! frylock Jun 2013 #167

such a pathetic remark...and dishonest on its face nashville_brook Jun 2013 #149

If you had an inch of a clue of who a rw would be and think you would know I am not a rw so Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #153

I live overseas now and have since 2007. My name on DU is because of that fact Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #123

Thank you marions ghost Jun 2013 #133

This ones for you patriot!! Dragonfli Jun 2013 #35

Wow, that should be on a motivational poster and sold through the DU Patriot Megastore MNBrewer Jun 2013 #79

Jingoistic teabagger, is that you? Don't tread on me! Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #90

Don't tread on me works two ways Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #102

Jingoistic teabagger, is that you? America: Love it or Leave it! Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #104

"Love it or leave it" ljm2002 Jun 2013 #99

I alerted this clown. Apparently, spouting Republican mantra like Love it or Leave is now Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #105

My country right or wrong” is a thing that no patriot would think of saying... L0oniX Jun 2013 #155

My...that's the best you can do? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #106

Stale air and visqueen is no way to live your life. railsback Jun 2013 #15

The irony of your post... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #114

You apparently choose your own ironies, too. railsback Jun 2013 #117

Are you making a threat? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #118

MY GAWD! railsback Jun 2013 #138

You might mock whatever you want to nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #139

Well, I guess if you can interpret that as a 'threat' railsback Jun 2013 #140

Whatever dude nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #141

Courage is Contagious usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #9

This post sounds like something a Republican would've said six years ago. Apophis Jun 2013 #23

+1 Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #84

Bush NSA policy= bad. Obama NSA policy (which is Bush's policy) = good! Who needs a 4th Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #89

Snowden is also a Libertarian of the GiGi ilk and he shouldn't be praised on DU BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #108

i do not hate obama questionseverything Jun 2013 #126

What do you base this on? reusrename Jun 2013 #136

anyone who uses the word 'ilk' goes down a notch in my book nashville_brook Jun 2013 #145

I'll do you one better. IGNORE. eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #171

...and besides all that ...he's a bunny stomper! L0oniX Jun 2013 #157

Can you explain why you repeatedly refer to Greenwald as Gigi? noamnety Jun 2013 #170

His initials. I didn't think I had to explain this to you or the other GEEGEE fans BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #172

His initials are GG, not GiGi. noamnety Jun 2013 #173

Gee Wally ...Isn't the NSA the "eyes of those paranoid"? L0oniX Jun 2013 #152

+1 That's speaking too kindly. Galraedia Jun 2013 #154

When People Fear The Government, Tyranny Prevails - When Government Fears The People, Liberty Prevails cantbeserious Jun 2013 #162

It ain't just the NSA revelations! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #165

Paul Revere was a traitor, He would have been hanged if he had caught. So what is your sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #168

Um. Iraq War. Robb Jun 2013 #4

Um. What does that mean? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #11

Greenwald was a cheerleader. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #94

That is an interesting perspective indeed nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #6

Wow, remember when Jeremy Scahill's opinion was respected around here? kas125 Jun 2013 #39

I respect him too nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #112

Conscience. bravenak Jun 2013 #7

I thought he meant couscous Blecht Jun 2013 #21

In that case. bravenak Jun 2013 #93

Wait ProSense Jun 2013 #8

" the conscious of our nation" supports Citizen United Whisp Jun 2013 #12

What usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #14

Right. railsback Jun 2013 #19

Exactly usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #22

Yes, 'all of a sudden' discovered this horror.. railsback Jun 2013 #36

Do you realize that cutting off speech for Corps means cutting off the ACLU, unions, Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #29

LoL! railsback Jun 2013 #34

Most advocay groups and unions are incorporated. You cut of GE, you cut off Planned Parenthood. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #37

Most advocacy groups never had to deal with fighting unlimited dark money railsback Jun 2013 #41

That is true. But it does not negate the fact that if you cut off GE, you cut off Planned Parenthood Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #45

That's totally irrelevant railsback Jun 2013 #53

No it isn't irrelevant. You outlaw speech of GE, you outlaw speech of Planned Parenthood. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #71

Speech IS money, to which Planned Parenthood is now at a severe disadvantage. railsback Jun 2013 #77

Banning speech of those who have the most money also bans speech for those who have less. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #86

you sippin the crazy juice, huh? Whisp Jun 2013 #42

Planned Parenthood is incorporated. A crazy fact. NOW is incorporated. Another crazy fact. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #48

You've got it bassackwards. baldguy Jun 2013 #97

We could amend the Constitution to provide that corporations do not JDPriestly Jun 2013 #88

ProSense: "the conscious of our nation" supports Citizen United? ucrdem Jun 2013 #72

ProSense: "Spying on Americans was, is and will still be illegal." woo me with science Jun 2013 #73

LOL, you've been watching too much CNN. ucrdem Jun 2013 #76

Hey ProSense Jun 2013 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author L0oniX Jun 2013 #158

. JI7 Jun 2013 #10

All I have to say is ... Tx4obama Jun 2013 #17

is sharing your cartoon world view? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #18

Seems to be MNBrewer Jun 2013 #80

Conscience* Apophis Jun 2013 #20

Thank you Apophis usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #24

Thanks usGovOwesUs3Trillion! Catherina Jun 2013 #26

the "dingbat factory" - lol usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #40

Imagine how differently Occupy would have gone with their hoovering Catherina Jun 2013 #47

conscience? DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #27

See post #14 (LINK) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #44

I thought this wasn't about Greenwald or Snowden. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #28

You have to learn how to cherry pick railsback Jun 2013 #38

Exactly. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #50

"..weird how folks who break actual stories that impact all our lives get so viciously attacked" railsback Jun 2013 #31

No we would not. zeemike Jun 2013 #52

Well, that's just assuming railsback Jun 2013 #55

It was not about him but us. zeemike Jun 2013 #63

Well, if you feel like you have to defend the messenger railsback Jun 2013 #69

What kind of logic is that? zeemike Jun 2013 #96

Greenwald is our Edward R Murrow and WAlter Cronkite, and Snowden is the Chinese guy who stood up JI7 Jun 2013 #33

“News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising.” Lord Northcliffe Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #43

Only ensuring that the troops will rush to the nearest library or internet cafe Catherina Jun 2013 #49

Putting something "off limits" for the troops is like an invitation to find it. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #56

Scahill puffing Greenwald is like Tokyo Rose endorsing Aldrich Ames. ucrdem Jun 2013 #46

Ah, so now two of our most intrepid investigative reporters are compared to infamous spys usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #54

Don't mind uc, he has hated Scahill since he tore up Blackwater Dragonfli Jun 2013 #61

When did GG become a reporter? ucrdem Jun 2013 #62

Are you out of your mind? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #64

Have you been following this story at all? ucrdem Jun 2013 #66

A blogger? Hurrumph. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #78

Someone needs to put up kitt6 Jun 2013 #51

Now that has to be the LAMEST excuse out of the bunch usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #57

seriously. where are the "bombshells" Greenwald and Snowden promised? flamingdem Jun 2013 #59

No thank you. I have a conscience of my own. nt patrice Jun 2013 #58

I believe when I see; kitt6 Jun 2013 #60

help!!!! madrchsod Jun 2013 #81

No he is not the ''Conscience of our Nation....'' DeSwiss Jun 2013 #92

I hope not. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #95

Huge K&R 99Forever Jun 2013 #107

Yes, Greenwald IS one of those few who are the conscience of this country. That is why those with no sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #109

ROFL... SidDithers Jun 2013 #113

Gosh, I hope not... Chan790 Jun 2013 #121

he points out what people dont want to hear plus ASSHOLES hate him. boilerbabe Jun 2013 #124

it's amazing how much the assholes love to kick these threads too nashville_brook Jun 2013 #146

I thought reporters were supposed to report the news brooklynite Jun 2013 #127

Especially news that is fundamental to our democracy, and rights. not gossip, or press releases from usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #131

knr - and like with Paul Revere - the fate of a nation rides with him tonight Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #129

k&r but Jeremy has a little conscience of the nation in him too. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #130

Bart Gellman of WAPO also validated Snowden marions ghost Jun 2013 #135

in answer to your question... yes Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #137

k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #142

The journalist Jefferson told us,, the informed public about . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #151

Credit where credit is due. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #156

Sounds like a Palinism to me Progressive dog Jun 2013 #159

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #161