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jeff47

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20. Compare to other drugs.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:39 PM
Feb 2012
Drugs will still cost money. People will still steal money, sometimes violently

Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. How many times do you hear of someone getting robbed for cigarette money? Doesn't happen because it's not that expensive to get cigarettes.

And who is to say that when corporations start controlling drugs, that there wouldn't still be a black market, with cartels and home-brewers of meth and similar drugs competing with corporate prices?

'Home-brew' will never be able to produce drugs as cheaply as industrial-scale production. We've seen this over and over and over and over again.

And think about other drugs that already do have a limited 'home-brew' market - people aren't killing each other over home-brewed beer or hand-rolled cigarettes.

people will go to great lengths to do drugs and their safety may not always be a top priority

Yes, but they're buying the 'industrial-produced' drugs not because they're safer, but because they're cheaper. Safety would be legislated in, instead of created by market pressure.

We've normalized alcohol, and kids still drink.

Two points: 1) We haven't really normalized alcohol. There's still a huge deal over turning 21 and being able to drink legally. Drinking is considered "adult", so kids try to get alcohol. Compare that to European countries where kids can have alcohol at extremely young ages. Binge drinking is a far smaller problem in those countries.

2) Even with #1, underage drinking is down...probably somewhat related to drinking being down overall in the population. If the kid doesn't see Mom & Dad drink every night, they aren't taught "drinking is what grown-ups do".

but legalizing them isn't going to make all the problems associated with them go away.

It doesn't make the problems associated with the drugs themselves go away. What it does remove is all the secondary problems caused by prohibition, such as crime. There haven't been any "Valentine's day massacres" over alcohol distribution since prohibition ended. Bud and Miller are content to duke it out in advertising instead of using firearms.

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prohibition is the model.... spanone Feb 2012 #1
Legalize pot first, and see what happens. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #2
Excellent approach! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #5
+1 limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #6
religion is legal and look where THAT has gotten us lol nt msongs Feb 2012 #3
The model being used now is flawed and isn't working. Anymore, I wonder if too RKP5637 Feb 2012 #4
It has been really hard to sell this idea to people. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #7
Yet the very system we're operating under won't allow those first steps MadHound Feb 2012 #11
AGREE 100%!!! Taverner Feb 2012 #8
k&r RainDog Feb 2012 #9
Weed should be legal. That it isn't is ridiculous. renie408 Feb 2012 #10
Well, first of all, you can't get addicted to any drug by using it one time. MadHound Feb 2012 #12
Well, scare tactics have worked really well on me. renie408 Feb 2012 #15
While I agree in theory, I disagree with some of your reasoning. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #13
To address your concerns MadHound Feb 2012 #17
Compare to other drugs. jeff47 Feb 2012 #20
What's an appropriate price for a couple grams of cocaine? metalbot Feb 2012 #26
Price would be set by market forces. jeff47 Feb 2012 #39
I'm for legalizing non-toxic "drugs".. tridim Feb 2012 #14
+ 1 dionysus Feb 2012 #16
All drugs are toxic jeff47 Feb 2012 #21
Nope. The Cannabis flower is non-toxic tridim Feb 2012 #22
Actually, it is jeff47 Feb 2012 #23
If all substances are toxic then the very definition of the word is moot. tridim Feb 2012 #27
I assure you, I can kill you with Cannabis jeff47 Feb 2012 #38
Yea, I've seen that argument before. tridim Feb 2012 #41
Ok....you're about 6 words into my post. Now, try reading the next few words. jeff47 Feb 2012 #51
Obviously I read your post. tridim Feb 2012 #54
OMG! DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE! Denver Donkeys Feb 2012 #50
The drug war libtodeath Feb 2012 #18
If we legalize drugs, the Chinese will invade us... Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #19
K&R... and I would add that the amount of products SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #24
I disagree, the "War on Drugs" is/was foolish only if your intent is to reduce the amount of Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #25
DURec bvar22 Feb 2012 #28
Seventh - people in chronic pain could actually get their medication... iscooterliberally Feb 2012 #29
I suffer from chronic pain and get my meds from a doctor in an office. RiffRandell Feb 2012 #31
Good for you. iscooterliberally Feb 2012 #32
Not at all. RiffRandell Feb 2012 #33
Sorry I got snippy Riff. iscooterliberally Feb 2012 #34
No problem. RiffRandell Feb 2012 #35
What "street" drugs have you done? RiffRandell Feb 2012 #30
Yes, I am experienced MadHound Feb 2012 #42
Yeah, sure. RiffRandell Feb 2012 #44
What, you want to make this some sort of pissing contest about drugs? MadHound Feb 2012 #45
Does this mean, you can't support a woman's right to choose unless you had an abortion? Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #55
Oooh yeah... meth psychosis. Such a wonderful thing don't you know. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #36
Exactly. RiffRandell Feb 2012 #37
I watched my ex in-laws come within two years of paying off their mortgage... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #40
'Scuse me, I live in the meth capital of the country MadHound Feb 2012 #43
Your property and your life might benefit... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #47
And if meth were legal, it would be treated as a medical problem, not a law enforcement one MadHound Feb 2012 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #46
I don't think I agree quakerboy Feb 2012 #48
agreed samsingh Feb 2012 #49
What about Life? Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #52
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