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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
72. there sure is a ton of time for this one
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jun 2013

Again, I will ask, and hopefully type it right this time.

How much attention would those two crimes have gotten if the races had been reversed. If a gang of white kids beat the crap out of a black kid - in two separate incidents, I think there would be lots of attention paid to it. They would be waved around to show how racist this damned country is.

The death of Trayvon Martin is a big deal because we have a racist that we can lynch. The deaths of Ranisha Jones and Jalisa Reid, young black girls who were killed and who were not beating anybody up when they were shot, is a non-event. Nobody mourns them. Nobody demands justice for them. Nobody even knows their names. Even Al Sharpton does not care.

Yeah, the whole point of the Trayvon story isn't about justice, it is about a chance for some people to stir up HATE towards "racist scum".

"Wabasha, Wacouta, myself and others still talked for peace, but nobody would listen to us, and soon the cry was "Kill the whites and kill all these cut-hairs who will not join us." "

Anybody not spreading or applauding the hate, needs to be hated too.

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I'm sure the gun republicans will come up with something Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #1
They did. They said he did it because he was black. Scuba Jun 2013 #12
he wouldn't Skittles Jun 2013 #2
I strongly doubt that Martin knew that Zimmerman had a weapon customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #106
Zimmerman is an utter coward - of course he brandished the weapon Skittles Jun 2013 #107
If that had been done prior to the fistfight customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #109
I believe it was an instinctive self-preservation move Skittles Jun 2013 #110
That just doesn't make sense to me customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #112
that doesn't make sense to me Skittles Jun 2013 #114
You can't possibly know that demwing Jul 2013 #130
I've been jumped and beaten for absolutely no reason. RichardPatrick Jun 2013 #3
No you weren't. n/t Dawgs Jun 2013 #5
You know this how? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #20
Interesting you call me classless then yourself assume someone that is completely wrong. n/t Dawgs Jun 2013 #24
There is no basis for believing any personal claims on the internet treestar Jun 2013 #29
So you believe that people randomly beating up strangers is a common occurrence DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2013 #30
How many stories have we seen over the past few years... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #88
That usually occurs in groups or packs where one miscreant tries to impress the other miscreant(s) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2013 #90
if i understand dawgs, i agree. u were attacked for a reason, u just don't know what it was. ellenfl Jun 2013 #42
Uh, that's exactly what the poster said. Posteritatis Jun 2013 #58
Were you stalking the person? pnwmom Jun 2013 #6
No, I was walking home after getting off of the bus. RichardPatrick Jun 2013 #14
that sorta reminded me of a time I was "jumped" hfojvt Jun 2013 #22
Sorry, but you just proved me right. Dawgs Jun 2013 #25
And mercuryblues Jun 2013 #66
That happened to me before. bravenak Jun 2013 #115
None of that is remotely similar to the Zimmerman/Trayvon sitaution. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #124
Actually, your story reminded me more of Trayvon's, pnwmom Jul 2013 #129
Would you blame him if he threw the first punch? yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #122
So you're just like Trayvon Just Saying Jun 2013 #7
I love that story. Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #16
I'd ask for a divorce. TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #39
Tell us more... bravenak Jun 2013 #113
Maybe similar reasons to why Zimmerman may have? Recursion Jun 2013 #4
Guilty with no proof then? Dawgs Jun 2013 #8
If hordes of DUers were claiming they "knew" that, I would argue with them, too Recursion Jun 2013 #11
You're just making shit up and pretending that it's based on stuff we already know. Dawgs Jun 2013 #13
Except there's no evidence whatsoever Just Saying Jun 2013 #9
except why was he unable to get away? hfojvt Jun 2013 #23
Still not a reason to be gunned down. n/t Dawgs Jun 2013 #28
I would say that a person has a right to defend himself from an assault hfojvt Jun 2013 #54
Nice story, there may be no evidence to back it up but I am sure racist murder supporters love it Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #31
is there evidence to back up the racism? hfojvt Jun 2013 #45
Our country has a long ugly history of racism Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #60
Here you go then hfojvt Jun 2013 #67
Not one of those links shows any evidence that the killers had lots of supporters Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #68
there sure is a ton of time for this one hfojvt Jun 2013 #72
Zimmerman is not getting lynched he is facing a trial Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #73
press them hard enough and they always give themselves away, B A Skittles Jul 2013 #118
LOL Skittles Jul 2013 #117
thank you so much, old friend hfojvt Jul 2013 #125
I pretend to know what things are all about also... LanternWaste Jul 2013 #131
if the "Trayvon story" was EVER about justice Skittles Jul 2013 #132
Really? Because I do not worry about my true character being accurately illustrated hfojvt Jul 2013 #136
Evidence proves most of your story wrong. Just Saying Jun 2013 #41
the friend on the phone is not really evidence hfojvt Jun 2013 #52
However you seem to miss something... DaDeacon Jun 2013 #80
Actually Just Saying Jun 2013 #108
You missed part of the testimony brush Jun 2013 #83
That makes sense given the diagram that was posted the other day davidpdx Jul 2013 #121
that is the defense's job Enrique Jun 2013 #10
This Doesn't Exactly Answer The Question Asked... BUT ChiciB1 Jun 2013 #36
I hope your thoughtful point of view is shared Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #46
Being rational about the Zimmerman case will only get you into trouble. Vattel Jun 2013 #77
Claiming to have the only rational perspective might as well. Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #128
I agree Vattel Jul 2013 #133
Because black kid. Q.E.D. Once you cut through the crap... JHB Jun 2013 #15
In my world, it's unclear how it could have gone past words. Igel Jun 2013 #17
In reality, GW didn't pull up in his car, Just Saying Jun 2013 #44
++ Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #47
+1! Incitatus Jun 2013 #81
What does a "low SES kid" mean? PotatoChip Jun 2013 #57
SES = "Socio-Economic Status", I believe... petronius Jun 2013 #78
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks! (nt) PotatoChip Jun 2013 #79
Or low self esteem brush Jun 2013 #86
Overall a good analysis imho Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #74
Possible reasons.... Pelican Jun 2013 #18
Would make sense if Zimmerman didn't have a gun. n/t Dawgs Jun 2013 #26
I haven't seen anything that indicates... Pelican Jun 2013 #33
Now one knows what was running through Trayvon's mind. His lasts thoughts lumpy Jun 2013 #56
Not sure if serious .. but oh well... Pelican Jun 2013 #111
Well, you know how sports fans are. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #19
By their reasoning - his race. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #21
He attacked him because he was doing racial profiling, it is that simple. It was racial still_one Jun 2013 #27
Whereas executing a total stranger makes perfect sense to you? cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #32
Apparently Zimmrman was fightened because Martin was resisting his lumpy Jun 2013 #59
Martin wasn't a man but a teenager just turned 17 brush Jun 2013 #87
Wake up. Get gun. Load gun. Go hunting. See prey. Shoot to kill. End of story. 1st degree murder graham4anything Jun 2013 #34
Which is why he called the police, gave them his exact location, B2G Jun 2013 #37
and got away with it. (except for Trayvon's parents & Al Sharpton who got this to trial). graham4anything Jun 2013 #49
This doesn't qualify as 1st degree OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #119
Obviously Zimmerman was the pursuer in spite of being advised to not continue lumpy Jun 2013 #61
I keep reading you think this is 1st degree but am curious Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #48
Rationalize much? RGR375 Jul 2013 #134
Isn't it likely that it started as a verbal argument then escalated? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #35
Well, they see all black males as thugs and criminals and so they kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #38
imo, he was standing his ground against an aggressor. eom ellenfl Jun 2013 #40
Knockout Game korak Jun 2013 #43
Maybe, but still doesn't make sense for someone buying snacks and walking back home. Dawgs Jun 2013 #51
No just no.. DaDeacon Jun 2013 #84
Yeah, while he was on the phone with his friend brush Jun 2013 #89
If you believe any of the witnesses... Sancho Jun 2013 #50
Agree. Zimmerman, quite likely attempted to arrest Martin and met with resistence. lumpy Jun 2013 #63
Many here are upset Martin was being followed and justifies Martin confronting him for that. dkf Jun 2013 #53
Was there any witnesses to any fighting or an attack on Zimmerman previous to lumpy Jun 2013 #62
This is disputed... Sancho Jun 2013 #65
Who was on top is disputed, but no one saw them go to the ground Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #69
No one appears to have seen the shooting though 3 or 4 heard it... Sancho Jun 2013 #70
The female witness saw 2 figures on the ground, 1 on top straddling the other. lumpy Jun 2013 #71
If their forensics can't determine who was on top then they need a new ME. dkf Jul 2013 #126
DISRESPECT grok Jun 2013 #55
Zimmer appointed himself the sphincter police. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #64
Maybe he got pissed that some "creepy-ass cracker" had been following him. Vattel Jun 2013 #75
'cause he's a young black man out at night? BootinUp Jun 2013 #76
Don't believe the hype. Ol' zimmy was the attacker brush Jun 2013 #82
To the OP JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #85
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #91
That is a complete and total right-wing lie intended to smear the victim Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #92
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #93
THANK YOU JURORS. uppityperson Jun 2013 #95
What a surprise that you would cite Rupert Murdoch's right-wing Daily Mail, Fox News in print Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #96
People are jumped for no reason all the time, but I've honestly never heard of one person Marr Jun 2013 #94
Martin was likely pissed that Z was following him Azathoth Jun 2013 #97
Too bad testimony so far has not said anything like that, isn't it? uppityperson Jun 2013 #98
Man, you really gotta work on your quips Azathoth Jun 2013 #99
Ayup, we have very different views on this. uppityperson Jun 2013 #100
Whoops. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #102
Say wha? Azathoth Jun 2013 #103
Let me help. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #104
lol, alright Azathoth Jun 2013 #105
Hyperbole is your best friend. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #116
The well-reasoned arguments continue. Thanks so much! K&R!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #101
Z was acting suspicious, what with following M and carrying a gun. Deep13 Jul 2013 #120
Obviously Travon felt threatened. Ganja Ninja Jul 2013 #123
Perceived threat RGR375 Jul 2013 #135
I think he was once smoked a joint. Inhaled, even! Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #127
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