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Octafish

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91. Thank you, octoberlib!

Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:42 PM

Jul 2013

Very much appreciate the heads-up.

Many good reporters have met their death when going after the people who use CIA as a private army.

Co-incidence, we're told. Consistently told.

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Anybody read this on Michael Hastings? It's disturbing. [View all] Cleita Jul 2013 OP

k for exposure HiPointDem Jul 2013 #1

I believe it BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #34

WTF? zappaman Jul 2013 #36

What a surprise! Always there to add plausible deniability. Octafish Jul 2013 #59

What a surprise! Always there to believe any conspiracy theory. zappaman Jul 2013 #62

You mean, ''apart from Richard Clarke,'' who would know about such things, like 9-11. Octafish Jul 2013 #68

Where in the video does it say there is evidence that Hasting's crash was not an accident? zappaman Jul 2013 #69

It's a short video. Octafish Jul 2013 #78

Indeed BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #96

Snowden broke his legs before he ever did a nanosecond on active duty--he never got past MADem Jul 2013 #104

wow BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #148

Calm down guy - I'm with you (because I've experienced Laser haters at DailyKos) laserhaas Jul 2013 #70

There's got to be a hack you can have installed. napoleon_in_rags Jul 2013 #2

This had to be a rental though, so I don't think you would have much choice Cleita Jul 2013 #4

He was driving a lower-end Benz Link Speed Jul 2013 #41

You can rent them, I rented a C250 MB for 4 days Raine Jul 2013 #47

and lock the wheels and steering in security position while moving. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #43

Old lady here. What does that mean and how is it done? virgogal Jul 2013 #77

On board computer system like on star and a locking nineteen50 Jul 2013 #90

Thank you---I guess that's out for me with my little old Corolla. virgogal Jul 2013 #95

Interesting theory. kentuck Jul 2013 #3

What I thought was interesting was that Clarke, a Repug tool usually, said he Cleita Jul 2013 #5

I don't believe Clarke was a ReThug tool. I trust him explicitly. Auntie Bush Jul 2013 #27

I dunno working for Reagan and the Bushes maybe. Cleita Jul 2013 #52

He's the farthest thing from a "tool" of any kind imaginable. Schema Thing Jul 2013 #133

Clark is far from a rethug tool. BobbyBoring Jul 2013 #140

I guess I should. I have a habit of not believing anyone who had anything to do with Cleita Jul 2013 #143

... "I believe the FBI when they say they weren't investigating him," said Clarke ... struggle4progress Jul 2013 #6

Do you think he was saying that it's unlikely that they weren't investigating him Cleita Jul 2013 #7

Or mebbe it's code for "Sasquatch had him whacked cuz he was havin an affair with Loch Ness Nellie" struggle4progress Jul 2013 #15

You haven't been paying a whole lot of attention have you while your Cleita Jul 2013 #23

Credibility is hard to win and easy to lose. It's possible to win some political fights struggle4progress Jul 2013 #35

But you used crazyland to knock it down. zeemike Jul 2013 #61

So it is your opinion whoever regards something as crazy is immediately discredited thereby? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #73

That is not what I said. zeemike Jul 2013 #79

So why do you work so hard to defend the credibility... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #129

JFC it's been posted like 10 times now. Who HASN'T seen that BS by now? nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #8

Maybe it hasn't been posted enough. Cleita Jul 2013 #9

Whatever. At least you admitted you're posting it after it's been done over and over again. DevonRex Jul 2013 #12

"Good German" is the new talking point... SidDithers Jul 2013 #17

Actually, it's really an old talking point with me. Cleita Jul 2013 #24

The ability to do it isn't BS. Ilsa Jul 2013 #75

And how do you assure a kill? jberryhill Jul 2013 #102

Obviously, you can't assure one. nt Ilsa Jul 2013 #109

After a certain speed, SamReynolds Jul 2013 #134

You miss the point jberryhill Jul 2013 #147

Not as difficult as you suggest. SamReynolds Jul 2013 #149

Has any information been released ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #10

None that I can find. Maybe the investigation has a gag order issued, but it Cleita Jul 2013 #11

One would think some enterprising ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #13

Maybe they are scared considering what happened. Cleita Jul 2013 #18

Really can't much blame them for being scared, I guess. ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #39

Let's not assume, for those who are, that it is the government's nasty work here Whisp Jul 2013 #14

I'm not really blaming government. It could be private enterprises with the ability Cleita Jul 2013 #20

yeh, lots of questions, for sure. Whisp Jul 2013 #21

All I'm saying is that after I posted a Michael Savage quote on my FB acct, my mac crashed. LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #16

I think you were hacked by some crooks trying to steal your identity. Cleita Jul 2013 #81

Oh, good. Misery loves company. :) nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #83

Something similar happened to me Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #82

Why It's Unlikely Someone Killed Michael Hastings By Hacking His Car cali Jul 2013 #19

And here is the truth from your article. Cleita Jul 2013 #22

Yah. Wrong kind of accident aquart Jul 2013 #29

Drive a stick shift. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #25

I drove a stick about half my driving life. I also had roll up windows and no air conditioning. Cleita Jul 2013 #26

Everything else can be electric, but you'll always have control over the engine with stick shift. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #28

Even an automatic can be shifted to neutral. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #30

I agree. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #40

"you don't knock down a conspiracy theory until you can prove it" G_j Jul 2013 #31

Jill Kelley's lawsuit is about privacy law concerns and abuse from high level government officials siligut Jul 2013 #32

Question to which I have no answer. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #46

Strange how no officials are not clamoring for Mercedes to make a statement on Cleita Jul 2013 #84

His wife already debunked the story investigation BS... Historic NY Jul 2013 #33

So it doesn't mean he wasn't working on something else that could have Cleita Jul 2013 #51

Really....... Historic NY Jul 2013 #99

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #37

People who knew him seem to believe he was murdered starroute Jul 2013 #38

what does his wife say ? JI7 Jul 2013 #45

I met Michael Hastings at the DNC IN Charlotte octoberlib Jul 2013 #42

Thank you, octoberlib! Octafish Jul 2013 #91

He might have been mistaken about the FBI investigating him. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #44

I'm not. I'm thinking he knows a lot more than he has said and is putting out some crumbs Cleita Jul 2013 #49

Have you read the article in the NYT about Ernest Hemingway and the FBI? octoberlib Jul 2013 #60

I respect Clarke. H2O Man Jul 2013 #48

Why hack a car when you can plant a bomb? Taverner Jul 2013 #50

Not saying it wasn't a bomb that went undetected, however, the possibility that Cleita Jul 2013 #54

It does, but then again fear is exactly what intelligence agencies, and the MIC want Taverner Jul 2013 #64

I don't disagree with you. We were discussing stuff like this since Cleita Jul 2013 #66

I tend to rule out conspiracy theories because the more people involved, the more chance of error Taverner Jul 2013 #72

Whatever - it's frightening n/t malaise Jul 2013 #71

I think it was Elvis who did the hacking. George II Jul 2013 #53

I saw this, and wound up discussing it on Huffpost. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #55

The coroner has verified that the body is Hastings. Cleita Jul 2013 #56

You do realize there are witnesses who saw the car flying down the street? zappaman Jul 2013 #58

There is also testimony from his friend that he drove like a grandma. Cleita Jul 2013 #63

Really? zappaman Jul 2013 #67

I doubt if it was 100 miles an hour or even 80 or 60. That would be impossible to do on a street Cleita Jul 2013 #74

You doubt that? zappaman Jul 2013 #76

Neither do you. The video does not clearly show the speed the car was going. Cleita Jul 2013 #80

Witnesses "WHO"???? - Even "IF" the car did run a Red-light and was "flying down the street"; such laserhaas Jul 2013 #85

*sigh* zappaman Jul 2013 #87

And he timed it at a hundred miles an hour. Sure he did. Cleita Jul 2013 #89

That is what I'm saying ---- tomatoe - tomahto laserhaas Jul 2013 #94

Do you "really" believe (in this day & age) that we can unequivocally "trust" a Coroner's report laserhaas Jul 2013 #86

Putting it that way we probably can't trust anything. However, it seems sensible to Cleita Jul 2013 #88

It is now a fact that JFK was more than we did now (and even now know) laserhaas Jul 2013 #97

The what hasn't been answered either. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #98

I think he was driving, but I wonder if the cyber attack meant that someone SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #93

Yes, the trees are so sparse on that street zappaman Jul 2013 #57

There is maybe one tree every other block. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #92

Bullshit. zappaman Jul 2013 #107

So I looked at the street view on Google maps of Melrose of the accident site as Cleita Jul 2013 #113

I did when I drove those 9 blocks this morning. zappaman Jul 2013 #114

Actually doing Google street view when you drive east that seems to be the case. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #115

Highland does not go east. n/t zappaman Jul 2013 #116

Who cares what direction. I don't. We were actually discussing whether Cleita Jul 2013 #117

You seem lost. zappaman Jul 2013 #118

I was not discussing Highland at all. No one is. Cleita Jul 2013 #119

He hit a tree on Highland. zappaman Jul 2013 #120

And this is important to you why? Cleita Jul 2013 #121

It's important to have facts. zappaman Jul 2013 #122

Yes, because you are always so factual yourself. Cleita Jul 2013 #123

Now you engage in personal attacks zappaman Jul 2013 #124

I haven't attacked you at all. I just pointed out a fact about your posts and reasons for Cleita Jul 2013 #125

LOL! zappaman Jul 2013 #126

Well, I'm happy you are so amused. Cleita Jul 2013 #127

Agreed, zappaman Jul 2013 #128

I was being facetious because of the inability for people to acknowledge something. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #137

No problem. zappaman Jul 2013 #144

They aren't 10 feet apart! SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #136

Okay, so do I, and quite honestly the spacing of the trees is not important when discussing Cleita Jul 2013 #138

I think that the various agencies that claim to have our security in mind are doing far more harm SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #141

I agree. We need to get Barbara Boxer on this too. She will probably try to do something Cleita Jul 2013 #142

I do. I get stuck in traffic there on my way to the valley. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2013 #135

K & R AzDar Jul 2013 #65

I wonder if they can remotely pilot aircraft? reusrename Jul 2013 #100

"Smirk." - George AWOL Bush (R) Berlum Jul 2013 #132

There are simpler ways to kill people jberryhill Jul 2013 #101

Don't wonder. It's fiction. Cleita Jul 2013 #105

Heard it earlier today on a radio show I think. Consider this tech3149 Jul 2013 #103

Perhaps this is the new small airplanes. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #106

Delusional Onlooker Jul 2013 #108

So I guess we shouldn't look for answers when there are questions. Cleita Jul 2013 #111

I would like to know if there has been any real investigation of the car crash NoMoreWarNow Jul 2013 #110

Supposedly, there is an investigation going on and there are still toxicology tests Cleita Jul 2013 #112

There was article in "Vermont Life" about him in 2013 Summer Edition... KoKo Jul 2013 #130

There's a lot of positives here. I didn't know about him having Cleita Jul 2013 #131

Couple this story with the one about FBI sniper attacks on Occupy leaders... KansDem Jul 2013 #139

Yes, this is disturbing. Richard Clarke is not a flake. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #145

Actually, a pretty good hunch. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #146