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62. And I don't see spying and collecting everyday data on US citizens a 'basic right' of our gov't. eom

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Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:30 PM

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Snowden: Obama Using "Citizenship As A Weapon" [View all] Purveyor Jul 2013 OP

One problem Andy823 Jul 2013 #1

His passport was revoked, not his citizenship frazzled Jul 2013 #2

When your Passport is Rejected...you are NO LONGER able to Travel... KoKo Jul 2013 #3

Why do you conflate 'no longer able to travel' with citizenship? randome Jul 2013 #4

To Travel as US Citizen you need a Passport...without that...you can't travel KoKo Jul 2013 #7

Oh, US agents will be happy to escort him here frazzled Jul 2013 #12

original better HiPointDem Jul 2013 #77

Well, of course, the great Lotte Lenya ... but frazzled Jul 2013 #81

I've felt the weimarish for some time. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #82

revoking a fugitive's passport is SOP nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #21

uuuuuuh that's kind of the point. gholtron Jul 2013 #63

He's still a US citizen. He just can't legally travel anywhere ELSE, pnwmom Jul 2013 #87

Upon extradition request the person's passport is revoked. Period. DevonRex Jul 2013 #90

He could come back to the US frazzled Jul 2013 #10

He can travel back here treestar Jul 2013 #33

22 CFR Subpart E � Denial, Revocation, and Restriction of Passports struggle4progress Jul 2013 #79

Not being able to travel does NOT make him stateless. All it does is prevent him pnwmom Jul 2013 #86

Has he tried Iran? Or contacted al-Qaeda for help? AlinPA Jul 2013 #92

Felons can't have passports either flamingdem Jul 2013 #43

He ran away to China and Russia. Obama didn't throw him out. NightWatcher Jul 2013 #5

Yep Andy823 Jul 2013 #6

Spies stay in safe houses not the Airport Mockba Starbucks NightWatcher Jul 2013 #8

they also usually spy for someone else who will give them haven. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #78

He let GeeGee and Julian's ASS-anganistas write a check his ass will never be able to cash. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #9

a mulligan! KittyWampus Jul 2013 #15

Fuck Snowden.. HipChick Jul 2013 #11

Fuck this weasel. sagat Jul 2013 #13

right in the ear! MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #18

sideways! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #27

Welcome to DU! sibelian Jul 2013 #19

"Obama ruined my getaway!" CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #14

this ^^^^ nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #20

I may have to borrow that? Cha Jul 2013 #25

Please do! CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #65

Exactly! Obama is invoking the law! treestar Jul 2013 #36

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #74

+1 graham4anything Jul 2013 #80

WAIT! I thought he was already in Hong Kong when the1st article was printed. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #16

You can't betray a Government and expect to hold valid documents from it at the same time. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #17

Who 'betrayed' who first? The government to its people or Snowden? eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #28

Snowden did what he did and now he can't face Justice in the USA. But, he can Cha Jul 2013 #35

Perhaps you missed the question. Who 'betrayed' who first, the gov't by spying on its citizens or Purveyor Jul 2013 #37

I didn't miss anything.. I'm talking about the OP. Snowden betrayed the USA.. Cha Jul 2013 #44

Well if you think the USA hasn't betrayed you...there is nothing left for you and me to discuss. Purveyor Jul 2013 #49

You know dick. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #84

The American people betrayed themselves when they went along with this shit in the first place. phleshdef Jul 2013 #89

His claims about US surveillance have been disputed. The fact that he faces felony charges pnwmom Jul 2013 #88

so NSA snooping is wrong therefore snowden should be able to give US secrets to the Chinese? arely staircase Jul 2013 #50

Yeah...it does. Blow-back is a bitch, indeed. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #52

glad we got that straight. it isn't often someone comes right out and arely staircase Jul 2013 #54

And what 'fallacy' would that be...ole wise one? eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #58

"I am not here to hide from justice." randome Jul 2013 #22

This is too much.. he's also "hasn't been convicted of anything".. he's is a damn Cha Jul 2013 #29

Where are the "WikiLeaks attorneys" and why haven't they advised Mr. Snowden alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #46

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #23

I think Snowden was the first to use "citizenship" as a weapon...against his own government. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #24

"Citizenship as a weapon"? Is he insane? Cha Jul 2013 #26

Using flammable words to get his fans frothing treestar Jul 2013 #38

poor Snowden.. what a wimp. Trying to blame President Obama for Cha Jul 2013 #45

Snowden keeps hopping from one authoritarian country to the next... Galraedia Jul 2013 #30

Oh yes, he could always return the the 'land of the free'. "Free" my ass... eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #31

How free is he feeling in Russia now that Putin has told him to shut up? Galraedia Jul 2013 #34

About as free as he would be here in the USA but at least he knows that gov't. I thought I did Purveyor Jul 2013 #40

Oh God, now you are just embarassing yourself. phleshdef Jul 2013 #91

This IS the land of the free treestar Jul 2013 #39

LOL, indeed. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #42

Damn Straight, treestar. How many Chinese and Russians would love to have Cha Jul 2013 #47

I'm not trapped in an airport treestar Jul 2013 #64

Just as I originally suspected.. Snowden is a whiney snot Cha Jul 2013 #67

for all his grand language, he's really doing nothing other than treestar Jul 2013 #68

Ed doesn't believe in the law. Snowden has a big stage to lie about the Pres and the USA.. Cha Jul 2013 #69

Actually, Canada is generally preferred newthinking Jul 2013 #75

What an asshole he is treestar Jul 2013 #32

Sense of entitlement.. like many asshole libertarians. Cha Jul 2013 #48

You made your choice,, and it isn't Obama's fault still_one Jul 2013 #41

There is no process by which the govt can end an American's citizenship Recursion Jul 2013 #51

I'm not sure that is still true after the Patriot Act but I'm too tired to confirm. iirc, we Purveyor Jul 2013 #53

Apparently you can be denaturalized if fraud is discovered Recursion Jul 2013 #55

I added to my post after your response. Please see. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #56

Huh. I'll ask my consular officer wife... Recursion Jul 2013 #57

OK. I see where you are coming from but do get back with me. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #60

I think they can only revoke citizenship from naturalized citizens tammywammy Jul 2013 #61

8 USC � 1481 struggle4progress Jul 2013 #66

Look like Poor Eddie can't make himself victim of this even if he wants to be treestar Jul 2013 #70

Yup: looks like he's gotta renounce his citizenship himself before he whines about being stateless struggle4progress Jul 2013 #72

LOL treestar Jul 2013 #73

I didn't know stealing classified information and government gholtron Jul 2013 #59

And I don't see spying and collecting everyday data on US citizens a 'basic right' of our gov't. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #62

Isn't he a fugitive? Renew Deal Jul 2013 #71

Waaaah...waaaaah! Snowden: Using classified material that he swore to keep safe as a weapon! MADem Jul 2013 #76

This guy is a jackass. NCTraveler Jul 2013 #83

Maybe President Assange can get him another set of travel documents. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #85