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SlipperySlope

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16. When it is reported that the gun is dropped and went off...
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:14 PM - Edit history (1)

When it is reported that the gun is dropped and went off it is going to be one of three scenarios:

1: A rifle or shotgun was dropped. They typically do not contain the internal safety features that modern handguns have. There is at least one rifle (the Remington 700) that has been accused of being prone to firing when dropped - particularly if an amateur or unprofessional gunsmith had modified the trigger.

2: It is a poorly designed modern handgun or a non-modern handgun (say pre-1980 or so).

3: The person is lying.

Generally speaking, there are two ways a gun could "go off" when dropped.

1: The gun is carried with the internal firing mechanism "cocked"; i.e. all the parts needed to fire are stored under spring pressure waiting to release. If the fall makes the internal trigger mechanism trip then the gun will fire. Guns that are designed to be carried with the firing mechanism "cocked" almost universally do have external safeties (handguns and long arms alike).

2: The gun is not carried with the internal firing mechanism "cocked", but if the gun is dropped the internal parts could move in unexpected ways due to the forces involved when it hits the ground. These are the types of guns that if "properly designed", there will be internal safeties that specifically prevent the force of hitting the ground from moving any parts related to firing.

I'll add that when I say "properly designed" I am stating my non-professional opinion. There is no national law in the United States that requires all handguns have internal safeties. Some states do have laws that effectively require this. Also, since most police and military require guns to be "drop proof" when they are procuring new weapons, pretty much any major gun maker that designs a handgun they intend to sell to military or police are going to design them to be "drop proof". The exceptions that are left are some very inexpensive handguns, and modern production of older designs. There are handguns being made and sold today that were designed over a century ago - anything designed prior to 1980 or so probably doesn't contain these features.

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Black = Suspicious. onehandle Jul 2013 #1
I watch Rev Al too, and I agree. notadmblnd Jul 2013 #2
Wrong about the safety wercal Jul 2013 #3
Are you saying Z managed to pull his gun, take safety off and shoot TM while being smothered and uppityperson Jul 2013 #5
There is no safety on that pistol. SlipperySlope Jul 2013 #7
I was wondering about carrying around a gun inside your pants without a safety, but internal uppityperson Jul 2013 #10
whether or not an external safety is a good idea is debateable naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #12
Since you asked... SlipperySlope Jul 2013 #13
Thank you for the answer, I really don't know much about the mechanics. So what is it when uppityperson Jul 2013 #14
When it is reported that the gun is dropped and went off... SlipperySlope Jul 2013 #16
Thank you, non-professional opinion works and that all makes sense. Thanks. nt uppityperson Jul 2013 #18
No external safety wercal Jul 2013 #8
OK, thank you. Appreciate the answer uppityperson Jul 2013 #9
Thank God for people like Al Sharpton. If not for them this would never catbyte Jul 2013 #4
in further displays of wanting it bothways ceonupe Jul 2013 #11
So you're upset that you can't say n_____? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #15
No im upset that AL does not hold himself to the same standards he wants to hold others to ceonupe Jul 2013 #19
So do you do business with everyone you agree with 100% of the time? catbyte Jul 2013 #20
It's also what I believe Faith warrior1 Jul 2013 #6
Is everybody watching the same trial? moondust Jul 2013 #17
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