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Andy823

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83. I would prefer

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:49 PM

Jul 2013

That if what he has to say is really "breaking news", he shouldn't have gone to China because they are so great when it comes to "human rights"! I would prefer to see some information that is actually new, not something we all know has been going on for decades. I would prefer that if there is a problem with the NSA's programs that it be investigated and then congress should fix the laws. I would prefer that if someone is really serious about being a "patriot" they stay in the country and try and make the changes need by going to the proper channels. Hell if he has some "really" important information he could have gone to his buddy Rand Paul and had him make it public.

I would prefer a much more reliable "leaker" than one who seems to have an agenda to simply make the president look bad. The more I hear from Mr. Snowden the less I believe he is sincere, but instead is working with others for what I see as "POLITICAL" reasons.

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What the hell is Snowden talking about when he says the U.S. "unilaterally revoked my passport"? [View all] Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 OP

"16-year-old kid in a 30-year-old man's body..." gcomeau Jul 2013 #1

+1 graham4anything Jul 2013 #4

++ tee hee. Whisp Jul 2013 #8

And they are directing their forces here to "stoke up outrage & rebellion". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #12

LOL! Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #18

a dim 16-year-old at that. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #36

this^^^^ arely staircase Jul 2013 #57

^^^^ ellisonz Jul 2013 #64

Well, since the US "unilaterally" issued it in the first place, I'm not sure what he's talking about Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #2

If they had wanted to, I wonder how they would have done it bilaterally? Squinch Jul 2013 #28

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #32

Apparently he didn't know this n/t malaise Jul 2013 #3

Well, he doesn't seem to think the mission of a spy agency should be spying. aquart Jul 2013 #37

Not on Americans in violation of the U.S. Constitution...no. Roland99 Jul 2013 #55

Agreed. But he hasn't stopped there, has he? aquart Jul 2013 #67

He's talking out his ass--it seems to be a habit with him. MADem Jul 2013 #5

Snowden should be a case study of what happens when you go truthy on the intertubes... snooper2 Jul 2013 #6

Winner winner chicken dinner! NightWatcher Jul 2013 #13

"Winner winner chicken dinner!" x 2 Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #21

He talks like Sarah. Whisp Jul 2013 #7

I think that the GeeGee Effect! flamingdem Jul 2013 #23

I'm not sure that statement was even written by him. Seems suspicious. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #27

Who cares? It's not about Snowden. Scuba Jul 2013 #9

His travel status is "not about him"? nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #10

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #14

Who cares what Snowden's travel status is? Or his naivety regarding passports? Scuba Jul 2013 #15

I care about the status of dishonest traitors. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #19

What was your position on Daniel Ellsberg? former9thward Jul 2013 #30

Ellsberg did not take 7-8 laptops full of classified information to the Chinese and Russians. stevenleser Jul 2013 #47

What about al-Qaeda ? Seems if he is thorough he'd give it to them too. AlinPA Jul 2013 #53

I wouldn't put it past him. When he is back in the US and on the stand, it will be interesting stevenleser Jul 2013 #62

There is no evidence that Snowden gave anything to the Chinese or Russians. former9thward Jul 2013 #63

LOL, that's what you are going with? Really? stevenleser Jul 2013 #68

wait, wasn't it just 7-8 laptops? frylock Jul 2013 #74

Because being a traitor with 4 laptops vs 7 laptops of classified info is such a big difference? stevenleser Jul 2013 #93

why not make it 400 laptops? frylock Jul 2013 #96

Turning over 4, 7, or 400 laptops full of classified info to the Russians and Chinese makes no diff stevenleser Jul 2013 #98

Now its up to 400 former9thward Jul 2013 #100

I'm not the one who said 400. You do realize that right? It was Frylock up thread. stevenleser Jul 2013 #101

You keyboard patriots need to get together. former9thward Jul 2013 #103

None of what you wrote is mutually exclusive. They're all part of the truth stevenleser Jul 2013 #104

I didn't know data was measured in laptops worth Progressive dog Jul 2013 #102

I don't know what went on there. former9thward Jul 2013 #81

You should have simply stopped with the first three words in your subject. You would have been right stevenleser Jul 2013 #97

you know that they didn't have laptops back then? frylock Jul 2013 #73

I'm trying to figure a way your point could be less relevant. Ellsberg did not take unrelated stevenleser Jul 2013 #92

snowden has ellsberg's full support.. frylock Jul 2013 #95

You're still using a logical fallacy by using his opinion as fact. "Appeal to Authority" stevenleser Jul 2013 #99

Exactly. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #82

now it's 7-8 laptops? grasswire Jul 2013 #91

Because being a traitor with 4 laptops vs 7 laptops of classified info is such a big difference? stevenleser Jul 2013 #94

Do you think ProSense Jul 2013 #20

Yeah who cared about the travel status of Benedict Arnold either? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #56

Probably the people on this thread. bornskeptic Jul 2013 #87

Like all good Pualbots Andy823 Jul 2013 #11

Who cares what his agenda is? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #16

I love responses like this BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #65

I would prefer Andy823 Jul 2013 #83

+1. So far, none of the 20 countries he's applied to, have jumped at his offer. I don't think it's Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #17

I agree with you Andy823 Jul 2013 #85

I agree Andy, he is a patsy, fell for their line and now he will pay the price of doing their cause. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #84

From what I have seen Andy823 Jul 2013 #88

When the US requests extradition of a citizen it revokes their passport. He should've DevonRex Jul 2013 #22

go get him! Enrique Jul 2013 #24

Enrique, you're really starting to lose it Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #25

yes it's crazy to imagine that people are obsessing over any imagined fault of Snowden Enrique Jul 2013 #31

There's no shortage of threads for you guys who aren't "avid Obama defenders". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #34

how about this one? Skittles Jul 2013 #40

Got any Snowden threads? great white snark Jul 2013 #48

I wish some DUers would stop worrying about Obama Skittles Jul 2013 #52

I wish some DUers wouldn't blame Obama for all America's problems. great white snark Jul 2013 #58

tired of this Skittles Jul 2013 #59

And I'm tire of this shit Iliyah Jul 2013 #75

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Jul 2013 #76

LOL Iliyah Jul 2013 #78

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Jul 2013 #79

did you happen to live through the coup attempt against Clinton? grasswire Jul 2013 #111

Oh, you mean the 26 senators who are now in some serious CYA mode? Deflect! Deflect! Deflect! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #50

I know who is in CYA mode Skittles Jul 2013 #60

You wish. The body charged with making the law, overseeing the law, is now questioning the law? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #72

exhibit #5367 Skittles Jul 2013 #77

The ability to tell the difference between the truth and a lie nineteen50 Jul 2013 #42

Hyperbole much? BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #26

"Unilaterally" sounds ominous. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #29

Playin' to his fans.. It's been pointed out that.. Who else was the USA suppose to ask Cha Jul 2013 #33

Holy moly! Them dirty rotten bastiges has followed them's own publitched regulashuns struggle4progress Jul 2013 #35

At this point he'll take flamingdem Jul 2013 #38

The Passport is just paper and a picture, he is still a Citizen and entitled to his rights. 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #39

I believe those rights include the right to a trial by his peers. brooklynite Jul 2013 #45

Or he is one individual struggling against the most powerful nineteen50 Jul 2013 #41

My opinion only, but Iliyah Jul 2013 #43

is this another one of those "snowden is making this about snowden" threads? frylock Jul 2013 #44

Yes and it is getting beyond pathetic. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #70

if snowden is a narcissist, what do you call someone who's obsessed with a narcissist? frylock Jul 2013 #71

He still has the right to seek asylum. Mr.Bill Jul 2013 #46

Who cares? truebluegreen Jul 2013 #49

The constant Snowden character assassination here is extremely suspicious FreeBC Jul 2013 #51

The old, tired 'character assassination' meme CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #66

Snowden's character is not being assassinated. Moosepoop Jul 2013 #69

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #80

FreeBC, Snowden has made a mess out of his character, this is his own mess and he will have to be Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #89

Who cares? FreeBC Jul 2013 #108

you are right, who cares about Snowden, he disregards our laws so who cares about what he says. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #109

great! FreeBC Jul 2013 #110

What crime can you charge them with? Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #112

My impression.... BAPhill Jul 2013 #54

He reminds me of my ex boss who said of his troops appleannie1 Jul 2013 #61

Allow me to translate for you. randome Jul 2013 #86

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Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #105

What I'd like to know is who was the one of 6 who said "leave" to this rambling personal attack uppityperson Jul 2013 #106

Your whole damn post is a personal attack. HappyMe Jul 2013 #107