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JDPriestly

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78. As I pointed out, armed robbery gets a stiffer sentence than just robbery.

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:23 AM

Jul 2013

If you, say rob a bank, and someone with you, unbeknownst to you has a gun and kills someone, you could be charged with murder under felony murder laws if applicable.

Here is Wikipedia's explanation of the felony murder law in Florida:

If a person committing a predicate felony directly contributed to the death of the victim then the person will be charged with murder in the first degree - felony murder which is a capital felony. The only two sentences available for that statute are life in prison and the death penalty. [6] [7]

If a person commits a predicate felony, but was not the direct contributor to the death of the victim then the person will be charged with murder in the second degree - felony murder which is a felony of the first degree. The maximum prison term is life. [8][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule_%28Florida%29

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Anybody Else Amazed At the Amount Of Support For Zimmerman And Stand Your Ground ??? [View all] WillyT Jul 2013 OP

I haven't seen any support for it; in fact, I just heard senseandsensibility Jul 2013 #1

Psst... look around... WillyT Jul 2013 #2

Do I have to? senseandsensibility Jul 2013 #4

There are plenty of posters here that think Zim Ilsa Jul 2013 #6

Unfortunately, it isn't a matter of what he deserves, it is a matter of what the jury JDPriestly Jul 2013 #41

I agree with the Rev Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #29

Apparently, if you are black and unarmed, you cannot stand your ground against bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #110

There are a lot of purple people here these days. Kinda hard to tell them from Great Bill Piles of leveymg Jul 2013 #3

since i knew one had a lot to do with the other, no i'm not surprised JI7 Jul 2013 #5

You noticed too. n/t JimDandy Jul 2013 #32

Bigots and guns are closely related. Walk around a gun store/show. Hoyt Jul 2013 #7

lol. when you you point a finger, there are 3 pointed right back at you! galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #25

Yes. nt alsame Jul 2013 #8

Yes, I am. HappyMe Jul 2013 #9

Actually .... etherealtruth Jul 2013 #10

I'm not amazed. Racism is alive and well. mwrguy Jul 2013 #11

I'm not getting the racism angle Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #12

If people call something racist they don't have to discuss the actual law/issue The Straight Story Jul 2013 #22

And sadly, Trayvon did not outrun Zimmerman. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #42

Should I assume from your flag that you're across the pond? Just Saying Jul 2013 #34

Your first paragraph sums up the flaw with this discussion joeglow3 Jul 2013 #100

What the jury believes both in witness testimony and of Zimmerman's Just Saying Jul 2013 #119

not really with all the support ive seen here for obamas spying on americans nothing surprises me bowens43 Jul 2013 #13

I'm not sure that all of his supporters NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #14

What gets me is they dont believe Martin had this same right. DearAbby Jul 2013 #15

You seriously find the words "no problem" to be threatening? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #18

Yes DearAbby Jul 2013 #21

Why do you feel Z identifying as part of the neighborhood watch would have defused the situation? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #23

It would be good if people in the neighborhood watch who actually patrol around JDPriestly Jul 2013 #43

You do understand that a neighborhood watch person is not actually a law officer, right? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #49

Thats why the dumb ass actually explaining he was part of neighborhood watch and why jmg257 Jul 2013 #96

When he was asked "Do you have a problem?" DearAbby Jul 2013 #46

Why do you think Z announcing that he was on the neighborhood watch... Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #53

Maybe because it would help Travon understand why some strange guy was following him? jmg257 Jul 2013 #94

May Trayvon could have said, I am just walking home instead of attacking someone joeglow3 Jul 2013 #102

Exactly, that is why when Zimmer was asked by his victim, he should have told the truth. jmg257 Jul 2013 #105

And Trayvon should have said "Cool. I am just walking home. Thanks" joeglow3 Jul 2013 #107

There is no other point - Zimmer was actively pursuing Travon. He obviously lied to his intention, jmg257 Jul 2013 #108

But we DO know what happened. jmg257 Jul 2013 #106

It works both ways. DearAbby Jul 2013 #120

And ceonupe Jul 2013 #69

If Zimmerman had said that gollygee Jul 2013 #101

Yes! nt frogmarch Jul 2013 #16

Yes. Iggo Jul 2013 #17

It's often shocking to find out others disagree with you. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #19

Why how dare they since I know I Duckwraps Jul 2013 #24

There is a video on DU explaining the contradictions in Zimmerman's story. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #44

Can you direct me to where? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #45

Give me a minute. I will find it. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #48

Here. Sorry for the delay. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #50

Checking it out now. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #54

Circumstantial evidence certainly does treestar Jul 2013 #91

Gun humpers always defend other gun humpers no matter what. forestpath Jul 2013 #20

but not when a gun humper is a dog humper. galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #27

I haven't encountered anyone on DU Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #26

Too many guns out there are burning holes in too many pockets Warpy Jul 2013 #28

That right there Nails It. Hoyt Jul 2013 #36

+100 billh58 Jul 2013 #112

spillover from the Gungeon ? Trajan Jul 2013 #30

Zimmerman =/= stand your ground Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #31

The "self defense" he's claiming is essentially stand your ground BS. Hoyt Jul 2013 #38

Agreed, and I think Zimmerman's a murderer... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #55

Nope, OP is correct. It's like gun folks acting like there is a big difference between Hoyt Jul 2013 #75

There *is* a big difference between a clip and a magazine. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #82

They feed bullets to your beloved guns. SYG just expands self defense Hoyt Jul 2013 #93

How about "ammunition feeding devices". That should cover them all... jmg257 Jul 2013 #95

That association the OP made is demonstrably false, as shown in this very thread. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #97

It is the same self defense law you would find in any state. hack89 Jul 2013 #99

I'm sure you have read every state's so you will know when you can pull your guns wherever you are. Hoyt Jul 2013 #113

I don't carry in public - I have no need to. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #117

It's been an eye opening experience. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #33

It is always all about the gun and immigration. Everything. That's how the BushPaul's play. graham4anything Jul 2013 #35

Don't forget that Martin O'Malley (45) passed the most comprehensive gun legislation in the US. madinmaryland Jul 2013 #39

actually, NYC has the best. However, watch out for the Cornyn poison pen pill amendment. Danger in graham4anything Jul 2013 #88

Blame Kennedy ceonupe Jul 2013 #70

Yes Gemini Cat Jul 2013 #37

Not really. I remember the Joe Horn case in Texas. aikoaiko Jul 2013 #40

My suggestion is to allow people to carry their guns and to own guns as they wish, but JDPriestly Jul 2013 #47

That makes sense. Gun crowd should listen. Hoyt Jul 2013 #51

Wow. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #57

Not if it is in their homes. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #63

Hmmm...so self defense with a firearm is only permitted in one's home? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #65

Yes. It is unlikely that a woman being raped is going to be able to use a gun on the rapist. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #79

Let me make sure I understand. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #81

I am suggesting that. Perhaps if people want there could be an exception for rape, but JDPriestly Jul 2013 #84

Wow. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #86

That is fucking sick... Pelican Jul 2013 #87

"self-defense should not be permitted as a defense if you killed someone with a gun" Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #58

Anything but a gun. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #61

I think this would discourage people from carrying guns, especially criminals. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #64

I disagree. I don't think criminals would give it a second thought. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #68

As I pointed out, armed robbery gets a stiffer sentence than just robbery. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #78

You think criminals OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #77

I don't think I am a candidate for carrying a gun. I am extremely nearsighted JDPriestly Jul 2013 #85

How many murderers claim self defense? hack89 Jul 2013 #103

Being able to understand how the law works is not racist. dkf Jul 2013 #52

Not really... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #56

A friend said that the decision from this trial will be whether or not it's fair game to kill black Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #59

Astonished and disgusted. PDJane Jul 2013 #60

I do not support Zimmerman davidn3600 Jul 2013 #62

It seems to be growing as the trial goes on... Pelican Jul 2013 #66

The only thing that amazes me is my dogs bowel regularity. Inkfreak Jul 2013 #67

Am I a racist if I don't hate castle doctrine? flvegan Jul 2013 #71

You might be if you embrace "stand your ground and similar crud," though. Hoyt Jul 2013 #80

I do notice how CNN and msnbc have dialed back the blind pro travon stance ceonupe Jul 2013 #72

I can't say what I want to say about the pro-Zimmerman crowd on DU. Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #73

Also remember the obvious low post count trolls Moses2SandyKoufax Jul 2013 #74

Yes, and you are so right. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #76

Yes, and it makes me sick to my stomach. I want to tell them to wake up! What if it were your kid? bravenak Jul 2013 #83

I wish I was DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #89

Amazed and thoroughly disgusted. nt DLevine Jul 2013 #90

On DU or elsewhere? rucky Jul 2013 #92

You mistake support for the judicial process for support of Zimmerman joeglow3 Jul 2013 #98

Who is supporting Stand your Ground? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #104

The idea behind "Stand Your Ground" is sound krispos42 Jul 2013 #109

Yes. Myrina Jul 2013 #111

I am totally sickened by the support..either they are racists or see Trayvon as an inanimate object. Tikki Jul 2013 #114

Yes and it's disgusting. tallahasseedem Jul 2013 #115

There's a lot of confusion between support for Zimmerman and support for the justice system. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #116

yeah. seems to be mostly the gun folks too... dionysus Jul 2013 #118