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ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
11. "I don't see any convincing reporting"...
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jul 2013

"that any country truly denied Morales passage."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/07/03/evo-morales-controversial-flight-over-europe-minute-by-heavily-disputed-minute/

“There was contradictory information about the identity of the passengers aboard one or two aircraft, because there was also a doubt about the number of planes that wanted to fly over France,” French President Francois Hollande said in Germany, apparently allowing the possibility that the flight had been denied permission. “As soon as I knew that it was the plane of Bolivia’s president, I immediately gave my authorization for the overflight.”


(emphasis mine)

Note the Washington Post admits Hollande is "allowing the possibility that the flight had been denied permission". However, I would say he is outright admitting it, given that in his very next statement he says that he, personally, authorized the overflight. If he had to authorize it, that means it was not authorized to begin with. We know that the flight of any head of state will have filed a flight plan. This one included flying over France. France's President became personally involved in the flight of this one airplane. Are you seriously trying to argue that President Hollande is lying here? Or that his statements do not verify that overflight was denied for some period of time?

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This is the most obvious point. Couple it with the players in Europe refusing to confirm or deny morningfog Jul 2013 #1
Isn't it all just too ridiculous? sibelian Jul 2013 #15
I noticed that Canada and Mexico have been equally as silent in this issue. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #2
Gosh. Is Snowden ratting on them, too? nt sibelian Jul 2013 #12
Mexico has commented: morningfog Jul 2013 #17
Right, but they did not deny responsibility. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #21
The US hasn't called it discriminatory or disgraeful. morningfog Jul 2013 #22
.. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #25
Nor would anyone expect them to. sibelian Jul 2013 #23
.. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #26
That's a smilie. sibelian Jul 2013 #29
If they denied it, people would call them liars anyways Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #3
Amen. treestar Jul 2013 #6
Echo chamber much? ljm2002 Jul 2013 #10
Taking rationalization to a new level of absurdity. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #9
+1000 CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #14
It's funny Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #18
they cant afford another blatant PR disaster that softens their ramparts. galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #4
Right now the White House is a bit busy. I'm sure they'll get right on it on Monday. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #5
I wonder if some European heads of state or being a teeny bit recalcitrant. sibelian Jul 2013 #19
How can they deny influence when they've warned all countries to do what the US wants? dkf Jul 2013 #7
I'd say you know very little about international relations. There's incompetence and face saving flamingdem Jul 2013 #8
"I don't see any convincing reporting"... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #11
It's one-dimensional chess. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #13
Happy Independence Day! sibelian Jul 2013 #16
Heh! Scurrilous Jul 2013 #32
I think what could have happened warrior1 Jul 2013 #20
Then why isn't the White House saying: sibelian Jul 2013 #24
maybe they were not in the loop warrior1 Jul 2013 #27
then why aren't they saying: sibelian Jul 2013 #28
Bolivia lands in Austria, complaining of airspace issues in Italy, France, Portugal, and Spain struggle4progress Jul 2013 #30
"adding an extra act seems unlikely to clarify matters." sibelian Jul 2013 #31
Extract a definitive account from what Austria, Bolivia, Italy, France, Portugal, and Spain say; struggle4progress Jul 2013 #33
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