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82. i know he revealed classified information to th chinese

Reply to HooptieWagon (Reply #81)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:06 PM

Jul 2013

He needs to stop running away and face what he did.

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Would Snowden really be safe in a smallish country? [View all] dkf Jul 2013 OP

Point is.. HipChick Jul 2013 #1

ESPECIALLY in a poor, small country. railsback Jul 2013 #2

I guess that eliminates Liechtenstein and San Marino. nt MrScorpio Jul 2013 #3

Both countries are hoping to leverage his technical skills HipChick Jul 2013 #4

Yes, they're small railsback Jul 2013 #5

Probably Monaco, too, although it is a rich man's playground Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #6

Nicaragua seems like a bad idea for this very reason flamingdem Jul 2013 #39

And he'll never be "free". The DOJ has probably been building a case. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #25

Probably not. At least not in Venezuela and Nicaragua. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #7

one can still disappear in Bolivia mitchtv Jul 2013 #77

Safe from who? The US is a peaceful nation. We wouldn't harm a flea or a child The Straight Story Jul 2013 #8

He should talk to Branson... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #9

So the ProSense Jul 2013 #10

I don't think it's safe for him in the US. dkf Jul 2013 #11

Manning is military. Snowden is civilian. That's a guaranteed significant difference in treatment. stevenleser Jul 2013 #13

Unless they classify him as a terrorist or some other bit of shenanigan. dkf Jul 2013 #21

Tsarnaev is a terrorist and is classified that way. That's the treatment Snowden would get. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #22

We have a history of being nasty to "hackers." Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #23

If Snowden could get Mitnick's treatment, he'd probably be back here on the next plane stevenleser Jul 2013 #61

He was the original "evil hacker" Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #92

Mitnick served only about 5 years, and is now a MineralMan Jul 2013 #68

It was a bit long for for a stint. :3 nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #87

That depends on your point of view, I guess. MineralMan Jul 2013 #88

I honestly suspect that you would be in the minority. Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #90

I often am. nt MineralMan Jul 2013 #91

Don't they have to use him as an example to discourage others? siligut Jul 2013 #75

Do you see a contradiction in Obama's encouragement of a discussion about this surveillance program JDPriestly Jul 2013 #32

Perhaps an analogy will help stevenleser Jul 2013 #63

We would not know about this program or be able to maybe, maybe take it to court without JDPriestly Jul 2013 #67

We've known for at least seven years per this USA Today article stevenleser Jul 2013 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Jul 2013 #12

There's an antidote to running and getting asylum stevenleser Jul 2013 #14

Didn't he have a Paula Deen problem of his own a while back? arely staircase Jul 2013 #17

Yes, in 2007 if I recall. Show was halted for a couple of years I think. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #19

he wouldn't last long in Bolivia mitchtv Jul 2013 #76

are you comparing Snowden to Osama bin Laden ? JI7 Jul 2013 #15

Well Venezuela has one of the, if not the, highest murder rate in the world arely staircase Jul 2013 #16

As a city, Caracas is the murder capital with more than double of CapeTown at #2. stevenleser Jul 2013 #18

I wonder why. arely staircase Jul 2013 #20

but do they have luxury hotel type places ? i assume those type of p laces are safe JI7 Jul 2013 #24

Instead of Letters from the Birmingham Jail, he can write arely staircase Jul 2013 #28

"Doesn't seem like he thought this whole thing through" VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #31

where in the world would he be safe from "our goons"? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #26

Russia maybe. China. Someone we can't mess with who won't do our bidding. dkf Jul 2013 #27

and yet neither wants to touch him with a ten foot pole Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #29

I think he tried those. arely staircase Jul 2013 #30

You have evidence? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #33

gladly arely staircase Jul 2013 #50

A list of HK websites hacked by NSA hardly seems very damaging. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #72

It absolutely is damaging Shivering Jemmy Jul 2013 #78

You know those sites were cyberwarfare sites? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #79

that was not for mr. snowden to decide or assume arely staircase Jul 2013 #80

Ok. So you don't know. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #81

i know he revealed classified information to th chinese arely staircase Jul 2013 #82

But you have no evidence. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #85

he really should face the music. if he isnt ashamed of his actions then needs to take ownership arely staircase Jul 2013 #86

I know why we hack universities in China. Shivering Jemmy Jul 2013 #83

He probably sold info so Putin wouldn't hand him to the yanks nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #40

And drones. silvershadow Jul 2013 #42

and the CIA... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #45

Pakistan is a libertarian paradise JackintheGreen Jul 2013 #34

I don't want him safe! I want him in a JAIL CELL! Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #35

Why does there always need to be a element of human misery? MichaelMcGuire Jul 2013 #38

Well he is being charged with Espionage. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #41

I'm in no doubt they are charging him with espionage. MichaelMcGuire Jul 2013 #43

Yes, he has done a great job at highlighting things... Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #44

"for our enemies!" MichaelMcGuire Jul 2013 #46

Go ahead and make light of treason. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #47

"I want that monster behind bars! And he will end up there." MichaelMcGuire Jul 2013 #48

Yeah, like that is really going to stop him from answering for his crimes. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #49

Wow what an odd thing to say with your handle. dkf Jul 2013 #71

You know its not the size of the country that counts MichaelMcGuire Jul 2013 #36

Will His "Exile" Be His Prison... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #37

Beats torture in one of our hell holes anyday usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #52

Torture??? KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #53

Yes, torture. And like I said, being free beats that EVERYDAY. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #54

He's Hurting "Whisteblowers" By Running Away... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #55

Disagree. He is only hurting the totalitarians by remaining free. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #56

In Six Months... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #57

recent event's do not seem to bear out your take on this matter usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #59

The Fun Of History... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #65

is that there is at the least 2 sides usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #66

If the US is anywhere near as bad as you suggest, he's dead in 90 days or less. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #60

possibly usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #62

True, and no one will ever trust him. MH1 Jul 2013 #58

I can't bring myself to care Glorfindel Jul 2013 #51

The short answer to your question is, if China, Russia, or the US want you dead and are stevenleser Jul 2013 #64

Only really small, down-and-out countries will harbor fugitives... gulliver Jul 2013 #70

We harbor fugitives all the time including fallen dictators and others Cleita Jul 2013 #74

He's probably always going to be in some danger and will Cleita Jul 2013 #73

Safe from whom? Rex Jul 2013 #84

Why is this person entitled to break our laws treestar Jul 2013 #89