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40. You have a point regarding waiting for more information on who was behind

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:52 PM

Jul 2013

the claim. However, it has to have been someone who had authority as several European nations cooperated in diverting the plane of a President of a Sovereign nation. That would not happen unless the source had some authority. No country would take such a step based on a rumor from some unknown source.

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Argentinian sociologist Atilio Boron: United States orders to capture Snowden, wherever and however [View all] Catherina Jul 2013 OP

This is getting more and more convoluted. Cleita Jul 2013 #1

Agreed. We are looking very bad Catherina Jul 2013 #3

Many of Europe's 'leaders' now are have connections to Goldman Sachs/Wall St. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #27

And Spain's ambassador Alberto Carnero, who ran up the ramp, only to be stopped at the front door Catherina Jul 2013 #123

A wonderful speech as would be expected of Morales, far too intelligent to be sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #125

Careful - The Cheerleaders Do Not Tolerate Dissonance Well - Interrupts Their Cadence Or Something cantbeserious Jul 2013 #2

Nothing like marching off a cliff because you're only looking up and *forward* n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #4

Ergo - The Apt Analogy With Sheep - Follow The Herd - Wherever That Might Lead cantbeserious Jul 2013 #5

unwarranted nasty comment nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #19

There Are Many Kinds Of Cheerleaders - It Is The Role Of Cheerleaders - To Support The Team cantbeserious Jul 2013 #26

Do you realize how simplistic you sound? Long term DUers are leaving due flamingdem Jul 2013 #28

By Definition Democrats Are Left Wing, Not Centrists, In The US Political System cantbeserious Jul 2013 #32

"This is not a left wing forum." Cleita Jul 2013 #38

Thank You For Adding That Feedback cantbeserious Jul 2013 #39

How about - this is not a conspiracy forum - the OP cites die presse a small flamingdem Jul 2013 #46

Oh, you don't get around much. There's been a lot more around the global internet than Cleita Jul 2013 #48

Post a link that attests to this, I've been searching a lot! flamingdem Jul 2013 #53

Try to google. It's all over the place. You do your own homework because Cleita Jul 2013 #55

Long-term DUers have been leaving here Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #63

It Is A Paradox - Some Leave Because DU Is Too Liberal, Or Too Centrist, Or Too Conservative cantbeserious Jul 2013 #66

Indeed. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #70

People leave when the balance tilts to nasty as it is now flamingdem Jul 2013 #74

It's really not any worse than it's ever been. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #76

When I think of election time it can be brutal flamingdem Jul 2013 #80

Thank you for not saying Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #93

he he I'm still on a rampage but slowing down flamingdem Jul 2013 #95

The less totalitarians usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #89

unwarranted nasty comment nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #90

And therein lies the fundamental problem with our party. Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #130

i agree SwampG8r Jul 2013 #51

unwarranted nasty comment nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #21

agree again SwampG8r Jul 2013 #52

Completely warranted. Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #128

Hilarious, I should count how many Snowden posts you throw up. Cause the claim is it's the KittyWampus Jul 2013 #6

There is a difference in posting about his resume/pole-dancing girlfriend and morningfog Jul 2013 #9

the other difference is that she posts actual information instead of hairbrained maps ..nt xiamiam Jul 2013 #10

unwarranted nasty comment nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #17

this one is based on truth SwampG8r Jul 2013 #54

I vaguely remember it flamingdem Jul 2013 #57

the actual map SwampG8r Jul 2013 #62

not even close to a tenth as many as ONE on your side of the debate has posted cali Jul 2013 #13

unwarranted nasty comment nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #18

Give it a rest. another_liberal Jul 2013 #36

unwarranted nasty comment flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Then comment in a meaningful way, or stay out of it. another_liberal Jul 2013 #42

If you bothered to look I have several comments on this flamingdem Jul 2013 #44

And you have quite a few pointless, one line cheap shots as well. another_liberal Jul 2013 #49

You're persisting in you nasty short unwarranted comments flamingdem Jul 2013 #71

the post she is responding to SwampG8r Jul 2013 #67

not one iota nastier than the one I responded too cali Jul 2013 #78

I am curious why you hit all these threads Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #92

And Prosense actually engages with posters in her threads Number23 Jul 2013 #114

It's nice to see South America waking upo again malaise Jul 2013 #7

Thanks Malaise. It's so important to understand how others view our actions Catherina Jul 2013 #8

Yes, there are "green shoots" truebluegreen Jul 2013 #14

They shouldn't trust our motives at all. Cleita Jul 2013 #45

I have to disagree malaise Jul 2013 #118

Actually, we are in agreement so what are you disagreeing with? Cleita Jul 2013 #119

I couldn't agree more. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #120

We've done it because we use the Monroe Doctrine to justify it. Cleita Jul 2013 #121

I agree, we are being colonized by our "own" corporations truebluegreen Jul 2013 #122

Again they took the teeth out of the unions with Taft/Hartley. Cleita Jul 2013 #131

+1 Kurovski Jul 2013 #116

I don't see where it is proven that Ambassador Eacho said Snowden was on board flamingdem Jul 2013 #11

please refrain from posting false information reorg Jul 2013 #101

"The ministry confirmed on request by APA that Eacho had called, but that no pressure had been appl flamingdem Jul 2013 #102

the ministry confirmed the call reorg Jul 2013 #104

If such an order exists, Snowden is finished. It will be easy to capture him in Venezuela. stevenleser Jul 2013 #12

Yes he is. I doubt there is any way they thought Snowden was on the plane flamingdem Jul 2013 #15

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unwarranted nasty comment nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #22

Is that all you're going to say to everyone who you disagree with? Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #129

Of course its easier to attack me than address the obvious flaw in logic I pointed out. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #23

A dead Snowden would further complicate the situation for the U.S. zeeland Jul 2013 #31

Are you saying that the US will invade a sovereign nation to get someone who has been sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #35

If the person cited in the OP is correct, there are a myriad of things that could be done. stevenleser Jul 2013 #41

Are you aware of how notorious OUR gangs are? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #50

None of that is relevant. I'm responding to the OP's citation. The person quoted said in fact that stevenleser Jul 2013 #86

Thanks for articulating this. You write like a reporter flamingdem Jul 2013 #97

We know that the US has tried to pressure other nations not to grant him asylum. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #105

you don't seem to get the point of the person cited in the OP reorg Jul 2013 #106

You just issued two contradictory and mutually exclusive statements. stevenleser Jul 2013 #109

Your contention is plain reorg Jul 2013 #111

No, I didn't. I gave several possible scenarios. You have tunnel vision for the murder/killing. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #112

Your "possible" scenarios were all about contract killings reorg Jul 2013 #113

No, they were not. I talked about kidnapping as well. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #115

how does that make you feel? SwampG8r Jul 2013 #56

have we found our DU therapist in you? flamingdem Jul 2013 #65

no therapist i SwampG8r Jul 2013 #72

I think it would be horrible if he was killed, or abducted, the USA was not trying flamingdem Jul 2013 #75

yes crazy SwampG8r Jul 2013 #79

It's okay with me if he gets asylum flamingdem Jul 2013 #81

well there is this SwampG8r Jul 2013 #82

He supposedly released info about US spying in Brazil today flamingdem Jul 2013 #83

i understand where you are coming from SwampG8r Jul 2013 #103

Marxist Libertarianism! Finally, a political philosophy for the most deeply confused! struggle4progress Jul 2013 #16

It's a bit challenging to pull off but apparently it can be done! flamingdem Jul 2013 #24

So have you gotten your check whistler162 Jul 2013 #25

Inane comment that doesn't add to the conversation flamingdem Jul 2013 #29

now i am going to congratulate you SwampG8r Jul 2013 #59

why thank you very much flamingdem Jul 2013 #60

we weigh in on different sides here a lot SwampG8r Jul 2013 #64

I feel bad that still one is leaving! flamingdem Jul 2013 #68

i dont have context for this SwampG8r Jul 2013 #77

Here's the link about a longtime DUer leaving DU due to nasty unwarranted comments flamingdem Jul 2013 #85

well that was a mess SwampG8r Jul 2013 #110

sorry it took so long SwampG8r Jul 2013 #132

Snowden is a distraction from the main issue. avebury Jul 2013 #30

The jury is still out about whether/if the USA had a role flamingdem Jul 2013 #33

You have a point regarding waiting for more information on who was behind sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #40

Was there cooperation? It looks like miscommunication flamingdem Jul 2013 #43

Too many countries all having a problem with the Presidential plane of Evo Morales. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #61

If you want to believe misinformation be my guest nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #87

Our state dept says they were in touch during the incident but denied Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #94

Logic dictates they didn't or wouldn't have risked having to walk that back flamingdem Jul 2013 #96

Logic for me dictates Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #98

I see the compelling timing, but it could have been due to the US trying to get out ahead of flamingdem Jul 2013 #100

^^This^^. ^^This^^. Thank you n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #58

k&r idwiyo Jul 2013 #34

K&R Thanks, Catherina! Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #47

the Argentino is right mitchtv Jul 2013 #69

There is no proof of what the Argentine says other than "Die Presse" flamingdem Jul 2013 #84

Very big, unfortunate and unnecessary mistakes. Catherina Jul 2013 #88

Catherina do you really believe the Ambassador Eacho story from Die Presse? flamingdem Jul 2013 #91

Plus one. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #127

K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #73

Thank you Catherina for all the work you are doing Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #99

I've been pointing this one out for days, but alas no one seemed to davidpdx Jul 2013 #107

Wherever and However Octafish Jul 2013 #108

Looked around the internetS for info. on "Die Presse" which should discredit Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #117

I still don't get it. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #124

He's a debauched lecher who led a young girl astray to pole-dancing? Catherina Jul 2013 #126