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Dr Hobbitstein

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73. The important text is at the end...

Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:25 AM

Jul 2013

Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) For the purposes of this order, the word "agency" shall have the meaning set forth in section 6.1(b) of Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009.

(b) Executive Order 12472 of April 3, 1984, as amended, is hereby revoked.

(c) Executive Order 12382 of September 13, 1982, as amended, is further amended by striking the following language from section 2(e): "in his capacity as Executive Agent for the National Communications System".

(d) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the OMB relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(e) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(f) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

Now, go read up on EO 12472 and EO 12382. Chill your poutrage. Seems you're spending today posting vague EOs by a President YOU think is a "moron".

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Katashi_itto Jul 2013 OP

I wonder what sort of emergency they're anticipating? nt sibelian Jul 2013 #1

I wonder too. They never needed such a thing before. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #2

No emergency broadcasting on line or wireless. The Wielding Truth Jul 2013 #9

Of course not. 9/11 never happened. Hurricane Sandy never happened. pnwmom Jul 2013 #145

They have always had this. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #210

The order was signed last year, on July 6, 2012 ucrdem Jul 2013 #106

Minor detail curiously omitted. nt Snotcicles Jul 2013 #123

Snopes, July 2012: ucrdem Jul 2013 #135

Kind of like catching your grocery store re-wrapping a steak, fresh looking side up. nt Snotcicles Jul 2013 #136

You do realize that thats something else entirely? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #146

Yes, you lied about a different order. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #194

Now they are going to fall for all those crazy GIANT text emails they get from their Winger friends! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #156

The OP should delete and apologize.... nt MADem Jul 2013 #201

It should be deleted. Disinformation, debunked, or false information should not be left to stand. Skidmore Jul 2013 #220

They don't care... Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #170

But....but.....but!!!! There's no opportunity for OUTRAGE if you reveal that key fact! nt MADem Jul 2013 #200

It seems most of their "emergencies" have to do with whistle blowers making Marr Jul 2013 #167

OWS back on the streets? Seems that was one of the biggest threats to them sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #183

It can only be related to civil disobedience as far as I can see. sibelian Jul 2013 #185

Biggest enemies of the Corporate State are the people when they start to wake up. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #186

You see poorly, since this is the EBS. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #229

You forgot about ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #240

Cool. This is like the flashflood watches we automatically get on our cell phone now after Sandy. graham4anything Jul 2013 #3

They already have an emergency notification system. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #4

but the emergency system only is for tv and radio, this expands it to modern social media/internet graham4anything Jul 2013 #10

What part of djean111 Jul 2013 #13

I know if there is a tornado in the area, I want to be warned. graham4anything Jul 2013 #35

Just keep telling yourself that. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #40

Ignorance will kill us all. kentuck Jul 2013 #52

G4A has never met an authoritarian measure he didn't like. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #57

Gatekeepers. Make sure the sheeple aren't unduly alarmed. Luckily... truth2power Jul 2013 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #178

Gawd. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #69

What if there is a police state in your area? Fuddnik Jul 2013 #84

What part of seize do you not understand? premium Jul 2013 #140

What would FDR do? nt. And he is the 4th best president of all time after LBJ, Lincoln and Obama. nt graham4anything Jul 2013 #177

FDR isn't relevant to this, premium Jul 2013 #179

This ain't WWII or the Civil War hifiguy Jul 2013 #204

And if the black vans/heli's are in the area, might you not want to know BEFORE... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #141

Australia is starting to go down the same religious loonie right wing path we are now on AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #216

Oh? Radio stations, weather radios, and local news programs don't do this? Apophis Jul 2013 #188

So if there is a tornado - the DHS should seize all private communications? AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #214

Can you show me where the executive order says riqster Jul 2013 #61

What the executive order does is expand control to all communications lines. djean111 Jul 2013 #101

What would FDR do? nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #142

I think the headline is hysterical hyperbole. riqster Jul 2013 #173

They don't want real time information to be spread. morningfog Jul 2013 #81

Thank you .. it's as if no one can read around here anymore ... rtassi Jul 2013 #113

It wouldn't suprise me if they were the government in some capacity or another! ForeignandDomestic Jul 2013 #152

That is the wording of the article from russia today, not the wording in the law DeltaLitProf Jul 2013 #221

Also attributed to Mr. Franklin MNBrewer Jul 2013 #74

Franklin meant the revolution was won in 2008. Why give it back to Jeb Bush in 2016? graham4anything Jul 2013 #75

No, he didn't MNBrewer Jul 2013 #76

Yes, Gorby did. Who do you think did it? graham4anything Jul 2013 #78

LOL MNBrewer Jul 2013 #87

LOL. nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #89

Bloomberg got himself named for a 3rd term also. former9thward Jul 2013 #161

I don't support him. I support the charity he gives to the arts & his gun position. graham4anything Jul 2013 #176

I am not a NYer as you probably know. former9thward Jul 2013 #180

BIll Thompson was Comptroller and he almost won 4 years ago. Unions backing him graham4anything Jul 2013 #181

Thanks, good luck to him. former9thward Jul 2013 #184

"Rollin', rollin', rollin', keep them dogies rollin'" hobbit709 Jul 2013 #80

As Benjamin Franklin ALSO SAID. "Those who would give up essential liberty... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #132

My TV is effectively shut down when I get an emergency message on it. pnwmom Jul 2013 #120

They is gonna take your cell phone minutes! snooper2 Sep 2013 #241

This article is from last July. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #97

But more ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #118

Yes, and Sandy worked out pretty well, didn't it? ucrdem Jul 2013 #126

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #130

May I have some of what he is having? Duckwraps Jul 2013 #100

Couple weeks ago I got a tornado warning and a flash flood warning on my phone treestar Jul 2013 #162

But but but ... 99Forever Jul 2013 #5

Heh, I hate pointing out inconvenient truths Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #6

You're not a racist, just a liar in this case. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #196

It is increasingly clear to me that I will be losing hifiguy Jul 2013 #7

I am looking at Hong Kong, had two job offers there and the food is awesome. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #14

I am coming here because I am unemployable in the US hifiguy Jul 2013 #24

I have to agree. They are already planning manned missions to Mars. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #27

Chinese civilization is nearly 3000 years old. hifiguy Jul 2013 #29

Chinese century... bank... Catherina Jul 2013 #163

I've received two letters dotymed Jul 2013 #50

Here, the big national project is performing a complete hifiguy Jul 2013 #68

cashectomy, heh nt grasswire Jul 2013 #198

Damn! Anyway you could work there as a part timer maybe? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #144

I am looking at Costa Rica. Initech Jul 2013 #148

Yeah, I hear China has an Emergency Broadcast System or something like it. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #230

This message was self-deleted by its author peacebird Jul 2013 #8

This is "cool"? Mind-boggling. Or reading comprehension problem. djean111 Jul 2013 #11

I was among the first responders after Katrina. dotymed Jul 2013 #64

Interesting story. Thanks for sharing think Jul 2013 #155

TV shows ARE shut down briefly while emergency broadcasts are sent. pnwmom Jul 2013 #154

Reading comprehension is your failing, not ours. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #231

In a real emergency, wouldn't all media outlets want to cooperate with the government? reformist2 Jul 2013 #12

This ISN'T media outlets. This is coopting the telecommunications system... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #174

I really expected better and to the sleepers "WAKE UP" nolabels Jul 2013 #15

Most of the Constitution disappeared forever down the rabbit hole hifiguy Jul 2013 #25

Established and true nolabels Jul 2013 #222

fuck. this just seems like such an overreach. cali Jul 2013 #16

Yup Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #17

Nope, just a troll post lying about the actual EO. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #190

Recently I got an update to my iPhone Savannahmann Jul 2013 #18

Any government call is more important than any private call? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #20

I never said I agreed. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #23

A thousand pardons, sahib Fumesucker Jul 2013 #28

It's all good Savannahmann Jul 2013 #45

Where do you get the idea that 'none of us are watching TV anymore'? Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #91

I posted the arguments. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #98

What does it mean? kentuck Jul 2013 #19

He did what TPTB wanted or told him to do. hifiguy Jul 2013 #32

It means that he can shut down any big protest zeemike Jul 2013 #37

Ding, ding, ding! hifiguy Jul 2013 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author kentuck Jul 2013 #49

That and shut down information flow during police actions. morningfog Jul 2013 #82

Yep...Those massive protests elsewhere scared them.....this is one way to stifle dissent.. Gin Jul 2013 #107

How come he can sign Executive Orders for this kind of shit? tularetom Jul 2013 #21

+1 TransitJohn Jul 2013 #33

Dammit, quit asking logical and reasonable questions!! hifiguy Jul 2013 #34

please stop making sense. heads may explode. piratefish08 Jul 2013 #43

Republican obstructionism, need 60 votes, 11 dimensional chess. GoneFishin Jul 2013 #99

whatever! you racist! iamthebandfanman Jul 2013 #112

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #168

I posted about this yesterdayday...this article is a year old and the order is vague LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #22

I keep remembering how dissidents in Egypt & elsewhere use social media Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #26

Sounds like they could shut down our communications if we were to organize. Apophis Jul 2013 #39

My exact thought. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #44

Hopefully, dotymed Jul 2013 #71

I think that's exactly what this is about. Marr Jul 2013 #171

Unfortunately, the security apparatus works off John Yoo's memo... HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #30

Becoming quite the little dictator isn't he atreides1 Jul 2013 #31

What's it going to take for people to get pissed off? Apophis Jul 2013 #36

The average American is too stupid, too ignorant and too hifiguy Jul 2013 #38

Meanwhile, the chocolate ration has been increased to 23 grams. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #48

scary brown people = freedom for the government to do ANYTHING. piratefish08 Jul 2013 #46

That's because they're smart enough to read beyond the OP's deceptive title. pnwmom Jul 2013 #122

Maybe that is what "they" are measuring right now. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #223

What in the hell are they expecting? A fucking alien invasion? loudsue Jul 2013 #41

You needn't look far into the past for evidence of democracies falling to their security apparatus HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #63

True that. "Scaring the democracy out of the elected officials"...and the masses, I might add. loudsue Jul 2013 #157

It isn't Obama. hifiguy Jul 2013 #66

^ this^ truebrit71 Jul 2013 #77

Thank you for the sobering historical perspective...you're right about that. loudsue Jul 2013 #166

Very good point, sue! hifiguy Jul 2013 #205

No just an invasion of alert conscious people who understand the game they're playing.. ForeignandDomestic Jul 2013 #158

That is messed up Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #47

Man, it's times like this I feel sorry for the script writers, having to work on Sunday and defend byeya Jul 2013 #51

Maybe all these movies recently about the WhiteHouse getting shellacked has got them nervous. DCBob Jul 2013 #53

strike while the iron is hot....this too will pass into the night ileus Jul 2013 #54

Agree, the American people will march into fascism, applauding all the while Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #58

K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #55

This appears an anti-revolution EO issued to protect 1% control from democracy. Zorra Jul 2013 #56

That seems to be a reasonable reading of the text. byeya Jul 2013 #59

You, Zorra, have hit the bull's eye hifiguy Jul 2013 #70

Did President Obama use a time machine? This was signed a year ago. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #153

Is heaven05 Jul 2013 #60

Did ANYONE read the text of the Executive Order? Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2013 #62

Good point. Here: Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #67

The important text is at the end... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2013 #73

Hmm I said nothing about the President being a moron. Quite the opposite. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #79

Hidden by Jury, you said it... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2013 #116

IOW nothing like what OP tried to pass it off as treestar Jul 2013 #164

EXACTLY! N/T Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2013 #199

...ominous and scary...nt temmer Jul 2013 #65

Boy, all this control freakism is something! ananda Jul 2013 #83

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #85

How about read the actual order now? It doesn't say what the OP says it says. pnwmom Jul 2013 #125

People Seriously Missed the "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" part of the impeachment process. dballance Jul 2013 #133

That seems to escape a lot of people. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2013 #143

I am seeing 'Impeach Obama' ads here on DU a lot lately. Whisp Jul 2013 #175

why don't you pony up some bucks and DONATE? Skittles Jul 2013 #206

Then the call for Obama to be impeached will just go away? Whisp Jul 2013 #207

no, the stupid ADS will go away Skittles Jul 2013 #208

don't you worry your little head about me and my donations. n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #211

what exactly is wrong with you??? Skittles Jul 2013 #212

The truth doesn't matter to the leftwing Teabaggers geek tragedy Jul 2013 #192

Which, again, gives the law enforcement agencies no cover for their negligence in investigating Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author madrchsod Jul 2013 #88

Hmmm : " the president chose not to commemorate the signing with much fanfare " GoneFishin Jul 2013 #90

Well, he doesn't REALLY mean it like it says jsr Jul 2013 #92

Communications systems, not the communications themselves Silent3 Jul 2013 #93

. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #96

The title started out as "Obama Gives DHS Authority To Seize ALL US Communications" Silent3 Jul 2013 #102

Whats curious? I saw your post and thought the title should reflect the nature Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #103

FYI: this RT article is from 2012, and the order was signed on July 06, 2012. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #94

So, like the massive surveillance going on that we knew exisred at some level years ago, djean111 Jul 2013 #110

Read the order. It's not alarming. ucrdem Jul 2013 #111

Alarming. nt Duckwraps Jul 2013 #95

The title of the OP IS alarming. And deceptive. pnwmom Jul 2013 #128

who was the president in 1934? madrchsod Jul 2013 #104

I list more than one source. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #105

Yet another bullshit, dated, & out-of-context hysteria post. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #108

DU is going the way of Prison Planet,all sufrommich Jul 2013 #114

If this isn't the modus operandi of a tyranny, I'd like to know what is. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #109

I wonder if any of President Obama's former students from when he was a college.... nolabels Jul 2013 #117

Laws are, to paraphrase Leona Helmsley on taxes, for the little people. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #149

This order is a year old jehop61 Jul 2013 #115

There's a statute of limitations? Demit Jul 2013 #127

How about giving people a little credit for honesty? Th1onein Jul 2013 #138

Shocking! And Rand and Ron Paul surely don't know either, or else pnwmom Jul 2013 #151

You're unaware of the Emergency Broadcast System in general? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #228

Obviously, I'm not. Th1onein Jul 2013 #233

A good place to start would be the actual executive order (from 2012, btw) geek tragedy Jul 2013 #234

So what? Th1onein Jul 2013 #235

You're the one running around as if your hair is on fire over it. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #236

Wow. You assert something and then can't back it up. Th1onein Jul 2013 #237

Friday July 6... 2012... sneaky. DCBob Jul 2013 #119

That title is so deceptive. pnwmom Jul 2013 #121

So? He's President of ALL the people! kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #124

How terrible. In a national emergency, he wants to be able to send emergency communications pnwmom Jul 2013 #129

Yep. This is straight out of RT's hyperbole department. pinto Jul 2013 #134

2012: ProSense Jul 2013 #131

Why Does this sound Suspiciously like the already exisiting Emergency Broadcast System at Most? dballance Jul 2013 #137

Dumasses, it's an extension of Bill Clinton's EO & was done last year. Enough with the flaming hair! Zen Democrat Jul 2013 #139

The mark of the beast mick063 Jul 2013 #147

No, even the wing nuts can read Snopes. And he hasn't signed over 900 executive orders, either. pnwmom Jul 2013 #150

Is this snark or psychosis? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #195

It is a chuckle. mick063 Jul 2013 #197

"quietly signed his name to an Executive Order on Friday" but had not even 1 second Catherina Jul 2013 #159

. ProSense Jul 2013 #160

... kentuck Jul 2013 #169

It's a year old treestar Jul 2013 #165

the 1% and its lackeys, not to be trusted at all Catherina Jul 2013 #172

Not only is that not true but treestar Jul 2013 #191

No, paranoid Obama haters need to wake up. Read the fucking order. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #189

I am usually first in line janlyn Jul 2013 #182

Talk about a headline not matching a story arely staircase Jul 2013 #187

Another filthy lie from the obamahateosphere. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #193

National Emergency extended to the Internet has you moving out of the country Peacetrain Jul 2013 #202

The more people like that that leave, the better. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #227

This thread is beyond even mere stupidity, Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2013 #203

You obviously don't understand Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #213

How did that happen a year ago and we not know about it?? kentuck Jul 2013 #209

I keep trying to give the president the benefit of the doubt, Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #215

You're not trying very hard. The OP is dishonest crap. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #226

OP's source, RT, has focused on birther crap, Ron Paul & conspiracy theories... VOX Jul 2013 #217

..... sagat Jul 2013 #218

Perfect response. bunnies Jul 2013 #224

Emergency Alert System... Deuce Jul 2013 #219

a full fledged freakout over the Emergency Alert System. bunnies Jul 2013 #225

In times of disaster FrodosPet Jul 2013 #232

Kick Scurrilous Jul 2013 #238

some people aren't very bright and are easily led/manipulated... snooper2 Sep 2013 #242

so Obama expands our emergency broadcast abilities Californeeway Jul 2013 #239