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morningfog

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2. I agree. Putting the pieces together, Snowden has his way out.

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:20 PM

Jul 2013

Russia has said they could give him a "stateless status" to allow him to leave. He can fly to Venezuela or Nicaragua via Cuba. Can a flight go non-stop from Moscow to Cuba?

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Snowden fate in balance as Cuba backs asylum bid [View all] morningfog Jul 2013 OP

I fully expected Cuba to aid Venezuela, Nicaragua. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #1

I agree. Putting the pieces together, Snowden has his way out. morningfog Jul 2013 #2

Aeroflot has 5 non-stop flights weekly. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #3

i really think his only 2 options are a non-american... allin99 Jul 2013 #4

There are several options. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #8

How does he fly commercial to havana under the risk that... allin99 Jul 2013 #21

Thats probably why its taking time to arrange. nt HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #26

you'd have to get... allin99 Jul 2013 #51

If permission is granted through diplomatic channels... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #54

good point. Personally... allin99 Jul 2013 #58

There's talk of forming an activist flytilla Catherina Jul 2013 #60

I don't think that will be much actual help. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #61

Me neither, that's why I said thin Catherina Jul 2013 #62

Yes. $200K or more is my estimate for a private flight. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #64

They all cross US airspace arely staircase Jul 2013 #5

Probably only a little of Florida. No problem. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #6

So they will divert to Miami then arely staircase Jul 2013 #7

Doubtful. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #9

It gives Putin the perfect way to do it without looking like he did it. arely staircase Jul 2013 #11

Oh, bullshit. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #12

like I said he doesn't want to look like he turned Snowden over arely staircase Jul 2013 #13

I don't think Putin cares about his image to the West. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #19

Image, no - hence the refusal (publicly) to hand Snowden over arely staircase Jul 2013 #27

Interesting speculation, one thing is for sure, there's a tangle flamingdem Jul 2013 #55

I'm not understanding what is happening now... Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #10

See this post from last night about Wikileaks pressuring Raul Castro flamingdem Jul 2013 #15

Interesting... Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #20

Because the Moscow to Havana flights probably overfly Estonia and Finland. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #16

Cuba cannot help because they have an agreement with the US from 2006 flamingdem Jul 2013 #14

Bullshit. There is no current extradition treaty with Cuba. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #18

Please refrain from aggressive posts - we can converse without that - here is info flamingdem Jul 2013 #23

Cuba has already said they'd help. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #37

Where did they say they'd help? Did they offer to let them land? flamingdem Jul 2013 #39

Link HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #48

Cuba has dozens of U.S. fugitives. former9thward Jul 2013 #63

See thread about Wikileaks pressuring Raul Castro via social media, they need them to say "si" flamingdem Jul 2013 #17

Castro already said he would aid Venezuela or Nicaragua. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #22

Another aggressive post, with a put down included flamingdem Jul 2013 #25

Since when is posting facts aggressive? Cleita Jul 2013 #31

You are jumping in to help this aggressive person, why? flamingdem Jul 2013 #32

Only you have labeled him as aggressive. I believe it can be regarded as name calling. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #34

You are ganging up and haven't offered any facts nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #36

You haven't either on your assertions. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #46

When facts collide with the "reality-based" community, evidently. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #45

That's very obnoxious, when will you stop acting like a child? flamingdem Jul 2013 #56

Don't eat the brown acid. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #59

how bad do you think they'd treat cuba... allin99 Jul 2013 #24

Well because there are so many right wing Cuban Americans in congress flamingdem Jul 2013 #28

Two hurdles now jumped, getting nations to offer asylum and getting Cuba to allow him to land. Cleita Jul 2013 #29

Did you see something about Cuba allowing them to land? flamingdem Jul 2013 #30

Duh! Cleita Jul 2013 #33

What about the facts you mentioned, where are your facts to back that? flamingdem Jul 2013 #35

It's your sub-thread, you are supposed to come up with the facts if you don't feel that Cleita Jul 2013 #41

It isn't my OP flamingdem Jul 2013 #42

You're right. I corrected the word. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #49

link HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #52

Russia has indicated they would let him leave and travel under a "stateless" status. morningfog Jul 2013 #38

Well I don't see that Castro has offered his airport flamingdem Jul 2013 #40

Right now most of the world is giving the middle finger to Tio Sam. Cleita Jul 2013 #43

Castro offered support to those nations that may grant him asylum. morningfog Jul 2013 #44

Me too. Cleita Jul 2013 #47

Link HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #50

That's my point, there has been no offer of passage nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #53

Then what do you think they mean by "help"? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #57