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In reply to the discussion: Blowback from the White House's Vindictive War on Whistleblowers [View all]truth2power
(8,219 posts)The OP of this thread was about Obama's vindictive war on whistleblowers and how it motivates citizens of conscience to speak out
With your assistance, it has wandered from DOMA to ACA to the economy and whether it's better or worse under Obama, to whether or not he's a corporatist. Coincidentally, I'm sure, the subject of Obama's war on whistleblowers is being lost in the shuffle.
You've asserted that it's only a 10% fringe of liberals/Dems who are "obsessed" with the NSA story. That's simply not empirically true. In some ways, DUers do not accurately reflect the thinking of Liberals across the spectrum. If one reads other Progressive sites on the internet, one will find general outrage over NSA surveillance, and Obama's treatment of Edward Snowden, frequently expressed.
Those trying to raise the alarm include Nick Turse (Assoc. editor of TomDispatch), Charles Pierce, Chris Hedges, Bernie Sanders, Daniel Ellsberg, Ray McGovern, John Pilger, Robt. Scheer, Valerie and Joe Wilson, Ted Rall, Chris Floyd, Rude Pundit, and Cenk Uygur, among others.
Many of the above individuals are linked on DU but are sometimes ridiculed as being out of the mainstream. Yet if you look in the comments section of their articles, there's more agreement than not.
Furthermore, what's the purpose of associating DUers who disagree with you with individuals we all despise, i.e., Louie Gohmert, Michele Bachman, Tea Baggers, other than to herd the more fearful among us into some sort of groupthink?
Even Bernie Sanders has found himself on the same page with Rand Paul on the NSA issue. See:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/bernie-sanders-orwellian-future_n_3419173.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
"...Sanders is not the alone among his colleagues in being outraged. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky). said on Sunday..." So, I guess Sen. Sanders should just sit down and shut up because Rand Paul is angry, too?
Why not let your argument against NSA/Snowden stand on its own merits? Just asking...