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Decoy of Fenris

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65. It's pathetic, and it's true.

Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:09 PM

Jul 2013

Some people just can't do martial arts. My buddy Howard weighed a whopping 450 lbs when he started training with us, and yeah, he lost close to a hundred pounds in two years, but he still couldn't fight a lick. TWO YEARS of training and a hundred pounds lighter and he couldn't swing a punch that wasn't a haymaker.

It's not bullshit, it just doesn't fit the narrative you want, so you discard it. I've got seventeen years of martial arts teaching, -and- training, under my belt, and I can tell you straight up, you're wrong. Zimmerman at -best- was an amateur and would get wrecked by anything greater than a stiff breeze if he tried his "MMA training" against anyone more competent than a five-year-old. Three days of MMA training a week for a year makes for an overconfident idiot, nothing more, and lots less.

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Message auto-removed [View all] Name removed Jul 2013 OP

You Gettin' Desperate, Aint'cha, Fella? The Magistrate Jul 2013 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #4

Sounds more like you are Making the smoke. russspeakeasy Jul 2013 #9

Smoke or not, Zimmerman case aside, he's right. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #12

Nah, You Just Tryin' To Smoke It Up Thicker, Fella The Magistrate Jul 2013 #11

That doesn't invalidate his statement on fighting/fighters. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #17

His Comment, Sir, Is An Attempt To Claim Zimmerman Was Helpless The Magistrate Jul 2013 #23

Coincidental to intent, certainly, but -true-. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #26

Not My Bet, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #33

I'd take your bet. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #48

Like shooting an unarmed teenager. LanternWaste Jul 2013 #61

Zim's mistake: Thinking he was able to handle a conflict. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #64

Yeah.. That's not what you said in post 12, though... opiate69 Jul 2013 #73

+1, black kids aren't born welter weight contenders!!! uponit7771 Jul 2013 #32

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #67

Did YOU teach your kid to not fight adult strangers who get close enough to grab him? blm Jul 2013 #70

Aren't kids TAUGHT to punch/kick at adult strangers following them close enough to grab them by blm Jul 2013 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #5

If grabbed, or if the adult stranger following them gets CLOSE ENOUGH to grab them? blm Jul 2013 #14

In my dojo, we were taught to identify a threat: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #20

Did you tell your child to WAIT until after he was grabbed? Or did you tell him to blm Jul 2013 #21

So Zimmerman was naturally thuggish and murderous. Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #3

You're very right, at least in theory. (semi-graphic fight video) Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #6

He needed to be knocked out... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #40

Fashion choice aside: The big guy loses in one punch. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #43

Yep, the little guy knew what he was doing... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #51

Speed and knowledge of combat trumps "Big strong guy" any day of the week. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #53

Yeah, but please don't think... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #55

Oh, I agree. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #56

Yeah, I hope so too... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #60

Can you possibly email this post to his defense team? leftstreet Jul 2013 #7

I took Tai Chi for years. It is an actual martial art. But I did it for self cultivation. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #8

I love that story. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #10

Indeed, Sir: Ain't It A Cool One? The Magistrate Jul 2013 #16

Zimmerman was a bouncer. Just Saying Jul 2013 #13

Well his trainer must suck to the max VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #15

Trainers, as a general rule, train form, -then- function. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #24

three days a week? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #25

Loss of weight leads to loss of coordination. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #29

Oh come on..... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #34

I'm not talking about Zimmerman, at least in content. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #39

Perhaps you should know abit more about what we are discussing before you chime in VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #41

I don't know about Zimmerman. I do know quite a deal about fighting. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #46

The discussion IS about Zimmerman! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #58

Well when the trees stop being wrong, I'll stop barking up them. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #62

the are NOT wrong in this case VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #63

It's pathetic, and it's true. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #65

No one is saying he was ready for actual in the ring professional fighting. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #69

I'd put good money that he couldn't handle that fight. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #71

Sudden weight loss might, but when gradually losing weight your body adjusts. uppityperson Jul 2013 #66

It does, but there's still a transitional period. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #68

I notice you use "suddenly" when I said gradually. Also, since weight is lost across the body and uppityperson Jul 2013 #72

I was using the arm as a hypothetical microcosm, but you should have known that. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #74

You only learned Kata and conditioning for a year? Aerows Jul 2013 #45

Okinawan Goju Ryu. Also, a brief reading error on your part. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #52

What "mental and physical body type" is associated with aggression? Nine Jul 2013 #18

LMAO! Marrah_G Jul 2013 #19

Obviously these classes don't make Zim a street fighting master... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #22

Never considered him an MMA bad-ass Xyzse Jul 2013 #27

so you've been here since July 7, 2013. was it just to defend Z? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #28

You already know the answer. Just Saying Jul 2013 #31

Aw, but he/she has a lot of fans here on DU creaming their pants over Zimmerman. It's sick! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #38

Yup... MIRT should probably have a gander at this one... opiate69 Jul 2013 #44

But, training makes the difference. Jim__ Jul 2013 #30

Training without experience is a detriment. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #35

Training without sparring is bad training if you're training to fight. Jim__ Jul 2013 #50

I'd agree. A trained, conditioned, knowledgeable fighter will drop a street fighter. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #54

What people don't realize is that a person who is properly avebury Jul 2013 #36

Fight training is better actually NoOneMan Jul 2013 #37

This is really really poor logic, Trayvon sent 100s of text messages to a girl he wasn't dating.. uponit7771 Jul 2013 #42

Mansplaining. nt Lex Jul 2013 #47

Churchill and Stalin said something that I think is relevent. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #49

Best watch out with talk like that. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #57

saying that Zimmerman has received a few paychecks in his short, miserable, little life is like sayi LanternWaste Jul 2013 #59