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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
88. Some statistics about political appointments
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:27 PM
Jul 2013

According to an August 3, 2009 report from NBC News:

So far, 57% of Obama’s picks for ambassador positions — 34 of 60 — have been political appointees, or people not considered career Foreign Service, according to the American Foreign Service Association. Fourteen of those, or 23 percent, are bundlers. Bundlers are individuals who raise large amounts of money for a candidate by "bundling" together smaller contributions from others. For 2008, anyone who a raised more than $50,000 for candidate Obama are considered bundlers.

In the past 50 years, the average percentage for political appointees has been about 30 percent, according to AFSA. The practice increased under George W. Bush — 36 percent of his picks were political. (Jimmy Carter appointed the least at 24 percent.)

Because many of the political appointments are made early on in a presidency, Obama’s percentages will likely decrease; as more ambassadors are named, more are likely to be career Foreign Service.


(Source: "Ambassadors: Do patronage picks matter?")

This is what I found quickly. I don't have time to follow up on the suggestion in the last paragraph of the excerpt, to see what Obama's cumulative percentage is now, almost four years later. One source quoted in the OP's linked article estimates that it's gotten back to the more typical 30 percent.

IMO the percentage of political appointees is a more meaningful measure than the average amount of money raised (the focus of the OP's linked article). The rising amount just reflects the change in the nature of campaigning and campaign finance. Campaigns have gotten more expensive and so fundraising has been taken to higher levels.

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Oh, the humanity. n/t Scurrilous Jul 2013 #1
I take it this doesn't bother you in the slightest? Aerows Jul 2013 #3
Why would appointing an exceptionally qualified person whom the President geek tragedy Jul 2013 #65
Hit and run Aerows Jul 2013 #40
I'll take "things that are a scandal now that a black Democrat is doing them" for $1000, Alex. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #2
I'll take "things that would be a scandal under a Republican President" for $2000, Alex. n/t Aerows Jul 2013 #4
This has never been considered a scandal. The ambassador to England geek tragedy Jul 2013 #8
I know Aerows Jul 2013 #13
Wasn't considered a scandal under Carter or Clinton. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #18
Everything under Clinton and Carter Aerows Jul 2013 #19
Clinton got caught committing perjury. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #21
After every single damaging thing Aerows Jul 2013 #22
Obama learned the lesson from Clinton. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #25
It doesn't drive me crazy Aerows Jul 2013 #29
A lot of the criticism Obama gets is embedded with racist stuff. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #31
When the discussion is about that, then it's a discussion about that Aerows Jul 2013 #34
Sorry, I respectfully disagree. It's part of a pattern, in my opinion. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #35
It may well be in your mind Aerows Jul 2013 #38
Per the comments from the link: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #42
Did someone from DU Aerows Jul 2013 #44
I never accused anyone from DU of racism on this point nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #48
It sure seemed like a blanket Aerows Jul 2013 #50
nope, meant the reporting nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #52
Looked like conflating DU Aerows Jul 2013 #53
Here is what I wrote: geek tragedy Jul 2013 #55
It became tedious the instant you conflated DU posters Aerows Jul 2013 #56
Bullshit. Rancher Bush got tons of criticism from me for golf. "Now watch me hit this drive." Ed Suspicious Jul 2013 #81
Yes, because Bush truly did spend way too much time on vacation. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #87
The case was a civil case and the question had nothing to do with the case. RC Jul 2013 #23
the civil case was about sexual harassment. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #27
No other president has had to testify in a civil case. RC Jul 2013 #60
It was Aerows Jul 2013 #28
Whitewater was a BS accusation Blue Bike Jul 2013 #86
bwhahaha Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #67
And of course we have people assuming Barzun is just some inbred dummy who's completely geek tragedy Jul 2013 #68
How is this news? This has been the practice since Andrew Jackson Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #5
the news part is the growth of it, but I agree that this has gone on (unfortunately) cali Jul 2013 #17
Isn't Don Siegelman in jail for less? eShirl Jul 2013 #6
No. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #9
YES. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #12
Wow Obama is the first Prez to repay a donor with a cozy job? NightWatcher Jul 2013 #7
it's just the ODS kicking in again Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #11
A wrong is only wrong the first time? Do you really want to go there? Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #51
Are you familiar with Barzun's qualifications? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #64
not unique to this president. ambassadorships have always been for sale nt msongs Jul 2013 #10
5 amassadors to the Court of St James have become President. It is worth noting who gets Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #45
Did it occur to you that Barzun is qualified, maybe even highly so? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #66
Money talks. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #14
I like loyalty in a person. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #15
Lol! Cha Jul 2013 #39
Well, duh. The sun rises in the east, too. Breaking news for The Guardian tomorrow morning!!! nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #16
Petty. Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #20
another age old practice that is alarming now that Obama is doing it. arely staircase Jul 2013 #24
Did you see the comments on the article? bunnies Jul 2013 #33
Yeah, leftwing Tea Baggers were soiling their undies in hatred in that thread. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #37
Yep. It reads like something from the bowels of FR. bunnies Jul 2013 #43
A famous GOP ambassador dusty trails Jul 2013 #26
Not uncommon. Not a real "scandal." More like sour grapes. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #30
So whats the problem? William769 Jul 2013 #32
No Hope for Change there. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #36
Saint Ronnie made actor John Gavin Ambassador to Mexico. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #41
I remember that!!!! Oh my God! People I knew were spinning in horror as they knew the man Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #46
But Ex Gov Bill Weld was unqualified for the same post mitchtv Jul 2013 #83
My personal view as to why some are upset with Obama over this and not others (not race) The Straight Story Jul 2013 #47
The "He Hit Me Firsters" never fail to disappoint IDemo Jul 2013 #49
Not excusing any policy, just petty complaints like this one that outrage geek tragedy Jul 2013 #59
Seriously? IDemo Jul 2013 #61
Maybe you should google, read, and then decide whether to whine or not geek tragedy Jul 2013 #62
Almost the entire rest of the article supports my position IDemo Jul 2013 #72
You were complaining about the nominee in question not being qualified. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #74
I never complained directly about Barzun IDemo Jul 2013 #77
And she was forced out in early 2011, the geek tragedy Jul 2013 #78
Take your own advice and Google it IDemo Jul 2013 #79
Does anybody know if Barzun is incompetent or unequal to the job? renie408 Jul 2013 #54
Barzun is highly qualified. This is just whining from the usual malcontents geek tragedy Jul 2013 #63
Next I expect to see "You know he takes helicopters everywhere he goes and stevenleser Jul 2013 #57
Really sound like the Bush embeds complaining... Historic NY Jul 2013 #58
Someday soon, Monsanto will be Secretary of the Interior, and Raytheon Secretary of Defense. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #69
Do you think the nominee for UK ambassador is a good choice or poor choice for the job? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #70
He'd probably fit right in as the ambassador to the Cayman Islands. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #75
So you have no idea and are just talking out of your rear end. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #76
They already are. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #71
What's next? Administration jobs for people who worked on the campaign?? Robb Jul 2013 #73
We need to get the money completely out of politics and government. End of story. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #80
I decided to take a look dsc Jul 2013 #82
Another "Obama is doing something every other President has done!! IMPEACH HIM!!!" Thread? Really? toddwv Jul 2013 #84
Some statistics about political appointments Jim Lane Jul 2013 #88
Sigh. It just doesn't matter anymore, does it? Myrina Jul 2013 #89
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