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BellaKos

(318 posts)
54. Answer
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:48 AM
Jul 2013

His mother. What most Americans don't know is that there is a thriving class system in South America, which is where she is from. The fact that she is married to a magistrate means that she is well-educated and from a family of means who consider themselves to be of the upper class in her country. She was raised to believe that she and her class are superior not only to blacks, but also to all others who are not "of her class."
You know, "those" people.
In addition to being raised as a racist, there are other psychological factors. For instance, George's brother is far more successful than he is. He's better looking, more outgoing, older, and has been able to complete his education and hold down a job, unlike George who is a failure at everything he has tried in life. Given his mother's background, I imagine that she has berated and criticized him because he wasn't as successful as his father or even his brother.
So ... the only "success" and positive response Z has ever had was parading himself around the neighborhood being a busybody, calling the police repeatedly ... and, of course, carrying his gun. Only in those circumstances could Z "be a man."

But I agree with the prosecutor: Z decided at some point during the incident that he wasn't gonna' let the effing punk get away this time.
Furthermore, I believe that he had calculated beforehand that if he happened to shoot a "punk" one night, he would have an automatic out by pleading self-defense. A plea that he had articulated in his mind ahead of time based on the knowledge he acquired in his criminal justice class. This explains why his rendition of the event as told to the police seems plausible at first glance and also why he could come up with it so soon afterward.
That alone tells you about the man. Many people in law enforcement are upset and even physically sickened after shooting another human being for the first time. He not only didn't seem to be upset, but also he seemed to have a an intact rationale immediately. Odd?

The debate over this issue is the result of the confusion that the defense team has put forth based on Z's story alone. And Z is a liar.

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His own family says he is Nevernose Jul 2013 #1
He knew two things about Martin, that he was young and black Marrah_G Jul 2013 #2
actually a third thing...not only was he a young black male, he was walking....that's a no-no to all Ninga Jul 2013 #3
What does it matter?? He didn't shoot someone as a race killing. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #4
It matters to some... Pelican Jul 2013 #5
Obviously it matters to you since you started this thread. Own it. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #7
"they believe it was the primary reason that Martin is dead" NoOneMan Jul 2013 #14
Reality and Perception are colored by our biases. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #12
+1,000,000!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #13
That said... FarPoint Jul 2013 #56
I agree that Zimmerman was, IMHO, biased, but the post asking for best evidence WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #76
Distinction without a difference. nt greyl Jul 2013 #53
He's a wannabe cop. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #6
Is that the best evidence that he's a racist PsychoBunny Jul 2013 #20
I'm not talking about cops here, I'm talking about wannabes. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #35
Wow. oldhippie Jul 2013 #38
Is this based on a verifiable study or are you just making stuff up? Quantess Jul 2013 #65
I'm sure there have been studies that were LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #66
Here you go Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #8
And here you go again Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #9
Here you go slaveringpalavering Jul 2013 #15
Sounded more like he was trying to sound like he would be a better officer Quixote1818 Jul 2013 #41
Maybe they should give him a test to reaffirm his racism demosincebirth Jul 2013 #10
ALL 66 911 calls he made were about young black males Pathwalker Jul 2013 #11
That is interesting and not something I had heard... Pelican Jul 2013 #16
I have one. slaveringpalavering Jul 2013 #18
No. It's been out there for some time, though. Pathwalker Jul 2013 #19
The link above doesn't agree... Pelican Jul 2013 #21
The, read the other links including the one where he Pathwalker Jul 2013 #24
I saw that one... Pelican Jul 2013 #25
While maybe only a third of the calls reference black males, stranger81 Jul 2013 #29
wow ~ the 7yr old!!! uponit7771 Jul 2013 #32
OMG. It sounds like he was a fucking disaster waiting Cha Jul 2013 #67
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #62
His father BainsBane Jul 2013 #17
Sins of the father... Pelican Jul 2013 #23
He raised him BainsBane Jul 2013 #27
If everyone with racist fathers kiva Jul 2013 #39
I dunno - that he shot an unarmed black kid walking down the street? nt TBF Jul 2013 #22
What crime did Zimmerman suspect that Martin committed? JoePhilly Jul 2013 #26
That one's easy. Igel Jul 2013 #28
Detective Serino testified on the stand that there had not been any string of burglaries stranger81 Jul 2013 #30
Your first sentence provides Zimmerman's motive for confronting Martin. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #36
That he assumed a teen walking along was a burglar or whatever treestar Jul 2013 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #63
There Is None. korak Jul 2013 #33
The Corpse of Mr. Martin, Sir... The Magistrate Jul 2013 #34
Was expecting this one as well... Pelican Jul 2013 #37
You Just Keep Telling Yourself That, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #40
How is that different than what you wrote? Pelican Jul 2013 #42
If, Sir, You Want To Convince People You Are Thoughtless And Foolish, That Is Your Business.... The Magistrate Jul 2013 #44
Should have been more clear...Madam Pelican Jul 2013 #46
Acually she was quite clear. vaberella Jul 2013 #70
You make a great point Major Nikon Jul 2013 #55
I would have believed someone who expected something, would know its meaning. vaberella Jul 2013 #69
I am inclined to believe .... etherealtruth Jul 2013 #43
Thank you!! +1,000,000!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #48
Yeah. Z has shown himself to be the "best evidence that he's a racist".. Cha Jul 2013 #68
I was born in 1945... korak Jul 2013 #45
If you are white, then you don't either!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #47
Oh, well. It's like that, eh. korak Jul 2013 #71
Sure would. So welcome to Ignore. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #73
Um, the fact that he stalked and murdered a Black teenager? 6000eliot Jul 2013 #49
his lunatic friend Frank Taffe that is openly racist TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #50
That Taffe is one of the most repulsive people I've Raine Jul 2013 #57
Go back and listen to his 911 calls. Apophis Jul 2013 #51
He killed a black teenager returning to his home from the store with candy. nt MADem Jul 2013 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #64
Answer BellaKos Jul 2013 #54
2 clear signs you are a racist NoOneMan Jul 2013 #58
He stalked and murdered a child for being black. mwrguy Jul 2013 #59
You don't see the circular logic in that statement? Pelican Jul 2013 #60
From this thread and your responses .... etherealtruth Jul 2013 #72
He had a black friend Hugabear Jul 2013 #74
Hah! pipi_k Jul 2013 #75
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