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DirkGently

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49. But Zimm didn't claim it. So, no, it didn't apply.

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:16 PM

Jul 2013

SYG gets rid of duty to retreat -- and that's a bad idea. Zimmerman didn't claim he stood his ground. He claimed he was trapped. Same considerations with or without SYG.

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My thoughts on the verdict [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 OP

Hey Nadin! I didn't understand why the racial aspects were kept out of the trial GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #1

Because the judge said such nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #3

Yeah. I agree. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #2

I read it...they had no choice nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #4

That means the next step is to mobilize against this law GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #5

Yeah That Usually Works SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #7

Uh, no. If you give up, you get nothing at all. GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #8

I Wish I Could Believe You SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #11

Change is not going to come from elections nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #17

The system is as fucked as it has been in the past nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #10

I also think Zimmerman's previous documented anger issues should have been revealed to the jury AndyA Jul 2013 #6

Absolutely nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #9

You'll Never Hear From Him Again SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #13

He won't get much of a payday from it though - his lawyers will get most of it. mysuzuki2 Jul 2013 #23

Who Cares SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #24

I don't disagree at all. mysuzuki2 Jul 2013 #26

I Still Feel That Way About Shrub SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #27

Sometimes I wish there were an afterlife where people like that would get what they deserve. mysuzuki2 Jul 2013 #29

People Like GW, Cheney, Rove or GZ Know There Ain't An Afterlife SoCalMusicLover Jul 2013 #32

Abusers rarely--if ever--learn their lesson until they're caught and stopped AndyA Jul 2013 #14

I know, but rarely people do learn nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #16

If Zimmerman feels good about having killed Trayvon, Mariana Jul 2013 #19

Zimmerman is a sociopath Skittles Jul 2013 #22

That's pretty clear to me, too. Mariana Jul 2013 #42

he felt nothing Skittles Jul 2013 #52

I think the jury could have had the decency ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #12

In my mind it was proven nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #15

Kicked & Recommended In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #18

these laws were made to favor gun humping cowards Skittles Jul 2013 #20

What racial elements were kept off the case? madville Jul 2013 #21

The 911 tape for example. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #28

They played the 911 calls for the jury madville Jul 2013 #34

Not all of it, not the long history of them. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #35

The real issue is that the jury HAD to find Zimmerman NOT Guilty. We can all thank madinmaryland Jul 2013 #25

That is how the law was written nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #30

Yes. That is the law that the fucking NRA wrote for the Florida Repukes to pass. madinmaryland Jul 2013 #31

Does it make you fell better to Bay Boy Jul 2013 #36

I see that another gungeonite climbed out of the cesspool to comment. madinmaryland Jul 2013 #37

I asked the question because the NRA didn't Bay Boy Jul 2013 #60

The NRA is evil and must loudly be proclaimed so. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #59

I will continue to shout from the mountaintop wercal Jul 2013 #57

It is Open Season on the Gun Protection laws is all. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #33

Open season on minorities? Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #38

When in the history of the Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #39

Self defense is omething the defense has to prove in Cali nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #40

Fair enough Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #41

It wasn't, until stand your ground, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #43

Nope. The burden on self-defense here was pretty typical. DirkGently Jul 2013 #44

I know they proved manslaughter nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #46

Got a better law you want to discuss? DirkGently Jul 2013 #48

Stand your ground is not very typical nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #50

This wasn't a SYG case. No "duty to flee" was raised. DirkGently Jul 2013 #54

SYG was not involved in this case. It was decided on self-defense law. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #45

Read the jury instructions nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #47

But Zimm didn't claim it. So, no, it didn't apply. DirkGently Jul 2013 #49

Once again. Read the jury instructions nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #51

Once again, it only applies to duty to flee. Which wasn't in play. DirkGently Jul 2013 #53

once again you have failed to accept that you were proved wrong. are you a lawyer now too? dionysus Jul 2013 #55

good luck getting that to sink in... dionysus Jul 2013 #56

Sorry but that just isn't true. In almost all the states in the US the prosecution must prove PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #58