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Taverner

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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:44 PM Jul 2013

The generational cycle hypothesis is proving true. Fourth Turning and all [View all]

The generational cycle hypothesis is proving true. That is the Strauss–Howe generational theory.

Basically our current state is known as the "fourth turning," which will be a time of frugality, prompting a reduction in our consumer culture - thus destroying their marketing, IT, accounting, and sales departments and replacing them with automated ones.

Basically we are seeing something akin to the industrial revolution, where old jobs were phased out, labor was cheap but started to organize. This swell built up throughout the gilded age with the Anarchist, Socialist and Communist movements. With the perceived Bolshevik win, and Makhno's Ukraine, a new society was beginning. But unfortunately the Anarchists were chased out, and in the case of the US, hunted down. (The Anarchists kind of had it coming though, with "propaganda of the deed" and the bombing of Wall Street, and killing of a President.)

Anyway, at this point we are all connected digitally - which means organizing is going to make it work this time. And without violence - it can be as simple as the abolition of the stock market, a general strike and a redistribution of wealth.

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I hope you're right! silverweb Jul 2013 #1
That book was amazing for me MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #2
They noticed a trend Taverner Jul 2013 #4
I see your point, and hope that you're right MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #5
Yes and they can organize too Taverner Jul 2013 #6
That is the problem with revolutions, wilsonbooks Jul 2013 #7
President Charles Lindburgh Taverner Jul 2013 #8
I like your version of reality! diane in sf Jul 2013 #27
Did I mention that the Beatles reunite at the 91 Live Aid concert? Taverner Jul 2013 #29
Harding wasn't assassinated by an anarchist. McKinley was. hedda_foil Jul 2013 #12
Oops. Big oops. McKinley Taverner Jul 2013 #14
Brilliant! K&R!! Avalux Jul 2013 #3
Don't forget Toynbee. He saw the cycle of creation though destruction. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #9
Don't over-estimate the advantages of digital connection struggle4progress Jul 2013 #10
There are Bluetooth P2P communication tools you can use Taverner Jul 2013 #11
The net is also an awesome surveillance tool. snot Jul 2013 #19
That is true, but the beauty is that it can work both ways Taverner Jul 2013 #20
I'm excited to see the transformations that will take place, believe me. snot Jul 2013 #21
With the millennials its not passive Taverner Jul 2013 #22
kick Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #30
it's orwell's big brother HiPointDem Jul 2013 #23
Yes but Orwell's Big Brother had police that watched Taverner Jul 2013 #25
it won't ever be anyone watching anything. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #26
This is just a thought experiment Taverner Jul 2013 #31
But it is the next great advance in human communication. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #24
Entirely possible. Something's got to give. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #13
And we all get a pony. Silent3 Jul 2013 #15
I would like to own myself for starts Taverner Jul 2013 #16
capitalists have gone global. people are doing the same RainDog Jul 2013 #17
Global Living Wage! Taverner Jul 2013 #18
I found that the book "Generations" SheilaT Jul 2013 #28
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