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42. And actually, the US opposed temporary asylum, not his staying in the terminal

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:12 PM

Jul 2013

The call came after Snowden said he wanted to claim temporary refuge in Russia, where he has been staying in an airport transfer lounge, until he could figure out how to reach permanent asylum in South America.
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Top US officials warned Moscow that offering such status to Snowden would undercut its statements that it did not want the affair to harm relations with Washington.

"Providing a propaganda platform for Mr Snowden runs counter to the Russian government's previous declarations of Russia's neutrality," White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

"It's also incompatible with Russian assurances that they do not want Mr Snowden to further damage US interests."

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-07-13/us/40553189_1_edward-snowden-mr-snowden-moscow-airport

The fact that Snowden is in Moscow and that the G20 summit is in St. Petersburg is also a helpful diplomatic fig leaf.

When U.S. President Barack Obama met with President Vladimir Putin in June at the G8 Summit in Northern Ireland, discussions clearly did not go well. The result for the two normally charismatic men was a painfully awkward display before cameras that showed a glaring lack of chemistry between the two.

Relations between the two countries have not improved since then. With the ongoing dispute about fugitive US intelligence contractor Edward Snowden's presence in Moscow, and differences over Syria and human rights, there have been questions about whether Obama and Putin will hold another one-on-one meeting at the G20.

White House Spokesman Jay Carney told reporters in Washington on Friday that Obama still plans to attend the G20, where he is scheduled to meet again with Putin on Sept. 5.

"The G20 is going to be a significant event in our economic discussions … I hope it will be another confirmation that there are issues in the world where we all stand to benefit more by working together than by working against one other. Economics today is one of these areas," said Kislyak.

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Snowden�s Endgame - Game theory suggests how his odyssey might end. [View all] flamingdem Jul 2013 OP

When Snowden's back is against the wall, he will say he wants to spend more time with his family. randome Jul 2013 #1

I thought this was the reason for the delay flamingdem Jul 2013 #3

There doesn't need to be a peep. Snowden can say whatever he wants. randome Jul 2013 #5

Something tells me Correa is sick of Assange flamingdem Jul 2013 #7

Perhaps he'll fly somewhere on a Boeing Dreamliner dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #2

Yikes! Or an Asiana flight? No way! randome Jul 2013 #4

Eventually he'll be granted amnesty like the draft resistors who fled. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #6

He's not getting his passport back or amnesty flamingdem Jul 2013 #8

That's what they said about the "traitors" in Canada. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #9

"the regime" snooper2 Jul 2013 #22

No - he wont leftynyc Jul 2013 #31

They said the same thing about the draft resistors in Canada. They were the "traitors" then. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #32

I just spent two weeks leftynyc Jul 2013 #34

Draft dodgers? But, however long, they did "give it". Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #35

You seem to think leftynyc Jul 2013 #46

mahalo for your perspective from visiting Cha Jul 2013 #44

I had to look up maholo leftynyc Jul 2013 #47

That's good. Because I don't Cha Jul 2013 #50

this is what I have suspected all along: arely staircase Jul 2013 #10

If Snowden agrees with your suspicions flamingdem Jul 2013 #13

the scenario I described has to be weighing on his mind. arely staircase Jul 2013 #15

That's the best scenario for the US and Putin flamingdem Jul 2013 #16

I am sure Putin can have an Aeroflot pilot do whatever he asks arely staircase Jul 2013 #23

I've no doubt that Russia would like to end this with some plausible deniability, winter is coming Jul 2013 #11

Good point. Escape would be the grey area of allowing his movement flamingdem Jul 2013 #14

The message is clear. Toe the authoritarian state line or suffer. And the authoritarian state is rhett o rick Jul 2013 #12

Putin reiterated this today................. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #17

So, when are we going to start pressuring our congress critters to clip the NSA's wings......... wandy Jul 2013 #18

Let's hear an official statement that TIA does not exist, if nothing else. randome Jul 2013 #19

Spot on. This is what we should be raising hell about. nt wandy Jul 2013 #20

+1 riqster Jul 2013 #28

Russia wants him out soon, but is not willing to turn him over to the US. morningfog Jul 2013 #21

That is true but I would add arely staircase Jul 2013 #24

Sorry, looks like too little, too late! :) Pholus Jul 2013 #26

I see nothing in that story that makes his capture less likely arely staircase Jul 2013 #27

Please keep your eye on the Snowden! Pholus Jul 2013 #30

^That's^ a good article on the new legal actions against the NSA Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #48

If it were possible to put Snowden on a private jet, I think Putin would Cleita Jul 2013 #25

Money is no problem for him; he has information to sell. AlinPA Jul 2013 #29

Interesting thought. He might be cutting a deal flamingdem Jul 2013 #33

The transit lounge at Moscow Airport is the best option for US and Russia FarCenter Jul 2013 #36

I see the reality of what you're saying flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Obama can refuse to meet with Putin, but can he refuse to go to St. Petersburg G20 Summit? FarCenter Jul 2013 #38

I see what you mean, wonder if it's true Obama said he wouldn't go flamingdem Jul 2013 #39

But Snowden has temporary asylum in the transit area FarCenter Jul 2013 #40

So they'll wait until he can't take it, or something else gives flamingdem Jul 2013 #41

And actually, the US opposed temporary asylum, not his staying in the terminal FarCenter Jul 2013 #42

Good catch. I hadn't read that the call was related to the request flamingdem Jul 2013 #43

Snowden will probably be in the transit area through the G20 meeting. FarCenter Jul 2013 #45

Interesting: "the United States does not consider Snowden a spy" Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #49