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106. BTW, I bet you all think I'm an Edward Snowden supporter, but I never really said so

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:06 AM

Jul 2013

I've been criticizing the deflection of attention away from the NSA Spying on Americans issue, which looks blatantly like a propaganda attempt from the establishment. NSA Spying on Americans is FAR more important than whether or not Edward Snowden is a traitor.

Even then, the accusations that I hear about Snowden being a traitor are petty, UNLESS he releases things like information on spies and other things. None of what Edward Snowden has released so far has "aided the enemy." Snowden disclosing information on spying on Europeans is not treason because the Europeans are not our enemy.

I find it somewhat concerning, somewhat amusing of the highly suspicious methods that are being used to attack Snowden. If you guys are propagandists then you really suck in making it look believeable. The hatefest mentality just doesn't fly well in DU.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] AZ Progressive Jul 2013 OP

It's a trap! nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #1

it didn't even take two minutes for the first nitwit response Skittles Jul 2013 #2

Congratulations on matching the nitwit response in kind. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #79

Watch out. DevonRex Jul 2013 #96

K&R The propaganda machine is deadly serious to the one percent. woo me with science Jul 2013 #3

Unfortunately this is already entwined with directives do/don't support Obama, Dems, ... delrem Jul 2013 #4

"It's pretty obvious who you are working for" Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5

The Military Industrial Complex. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #55

I wish I could get paid to bash Snowden... coffee ain't cheap. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #6

Can I get one of those jobs? Quantess Jul 2013 #7

They don't work for anyone: cult members pay to join. LeftyMom Jul 2013 #8

Aren't you sweet to your fellow DUers? DevonRex Jul 2013 #85

But we get toasters after our membership is confirmed� except I don't hate S. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #88

+1 Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #103

no one's paying them - They are being authoritarianism's useful dingbats for free Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #9

I'll remember this, too. DevonRex Jul 2013 #87

I keep sayin': Where's my damn paycheck? Hekate Jul 2013 #10

I got told that mine's in the mall. Kennah Jul 2013 #11

Don't you just love our coworkers, though? AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #13

Snowden hates himself. Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #12

Every report on that 'chat session' goes back to the same source which doesn't give any evidence sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #63

mean while about the use of drones to execute people w/out trial....crickets.... nt msongs Jul 2013 #14

+10000 The propaganda machine dislikes talk of Kill Lists. woo me with science Jul 2013 #15

And the silence is even louder when the topic is drone double-taps... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #67

It's sort of like gossip-think. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #16

The writing looks something like this: backscatter712 Jul 2013 #59

Unfortunately, these servile tools exist Broward Jul 2013 #17

Hmm. Didn't know you before. Now I won't forget. DevonRex Jul 2013 #89

Hmm. I won't forget Broward Jul 2013 #115

I go on vacation for 2 weeks and come leftynyc Jul 2013 #18

The continuous obsession with hatred of Snowden just reeks love of the establishment AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #19

The obsession is in your mind leftynyc Jul 2013 #20

"When Snowden and Greenwald keep their mouths shut, there is nothing to say" LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #65

Perhaps leftynyc Jul 2013 #66

Thanks for the report back lefty flamingdem Jul 2013 #70

Europeans are worried about their leftynyc Jul 2013 #73

German Spies Made Use of US Surveilance to Find otohara Jul 2013 #113

People here only seem to care about leftynyc Jul 2013 #114

Alas, another thread about Snowden. You guys really should make up your minds. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #21

You must be heartbroken after all that work you did for Kerry and Obama Kolesar Jul 2013 #28

I'm not working for NSA era veteran Jul 2013 #22

"Please stop" is hardly the best way to dissuade two minute haters from their mission carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #23

I dont think he did the right thing... GreedIsGood Jul 2013 #24

"You should be loyal to the country which gives your paycheck every year." stillwaiting Jul 2013 #69

Being loyal to a country ronnie624 Jul 2013 #110

The Bell Curve of Tyranny polynomial Jul 2013 #25

"Its pretty obvious who you are working for...." Th1onein Jul 2013 #26

Of course we don't *know*, but I think it only stands to reason that powerful people hire minions to reformist2 Jul 2013 #42

Did it ever occur to you that people can simply disagree without "working for" your enemies? Silent3 Jul 2013 #27

It's not conspiratorial to think people are paid to propagate the propaganda. reformist2 Jul 2013 #44

There's a difference between knowing that it happens and acting like every instance... Silent3 Jul 2013 #61

Welcome to Infowars 2.0 Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #29

You're far too nice to them. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #30

I would encourage you to consider moderating your terminology a little bit Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #31

I'd also make character assassination a TOS violation. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #32

If Skinner would make leftynyc Jul 2013 #51

Ah, more dishonest word-twisting and invention of meaning. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #56

Badge of honor for me leftynyc Jul 2013 #60

Amazingly, they'll accuse use of turning your back Broward Jul 2013 #33

That too! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #34

LOL!!!!!!!! You poor thing. DevonRex Jul 2013 #90

Like Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #104

here now, let me help you to the fainting couch. you must be exhausted after that little tantrum. dionysus Jul 2013 #126

Seriously. Perhaps there are more pristine people he'd rather hang around, too. DevonRex Jul 2013 #127

To the Snowden cultists, please continue displaying your insane paranoia NoPasaran Jul 2013 #35

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #40

LOL - so true leftynyc Jul 2013 #52

+1 and keep reading those pamphlets! flamingdem Jul 2013 #71

LOL Scurrilous Jul 2013 #72

Backscatter called us SCUM down below! Isn't that great? DevonRex Jul 2013 #92

The Snowden-bashers here are such babies. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #122

What about the Snowden skeptics? Is someone paying them, too? pnwmom Jul 2013 #36

Ever see The Handmaids Tale? there's a scene where when they tell all the few women... allin99 Jul 2013 #37

Carl Bernstein: Greenwald 'out of line' (updated) ProSense Jul 2013 #38

If they can come up with new howlers like the "ballerina abandoner" accusation, I'll be OK with that reformist2 Jul 2013 #39

To all the people who disagree with me - pleas shut up. el_bryanto Jul 2013 #41

K&R. In a nutshell. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #45

Wait...that sounds like authoritarianism, somehow. MineralMan Jul 2013 #47

You are not the boss of me or anyone else here. Whisp Jul 2013 #43

What Whisp said but with extra emphahsis on "Fuck Ron Paul" Rowdyboy Jul 2013 #46

Don't forget -- Fuck Rand Paul! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2013 #74

It is NOT about Snowden (except when it is about Snowden). JoePhilly Jul 2013 #48

First and Fourth amendments are what make Democracy possible. Octafish Jul 2013 #49

The display of the authoritarian apologists Broward Jul 2013 #54

Your name Samuel Adams? Octafish Jul 2013 #57

OK, Chris Crocker...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #50

I do not hate him, I regard him as a distraction, a publicity seeker intaglio Jul 2013 #53

To all Snowden sycophants, shop displaying your hatred of government for 2 minutes karynnj Jul 2013 #58

Hatred of government? More propaganda AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #97

What do trade treaties have to do with this? karynnj Jul 2013 #118

+1 treestar Jul 2013 #120

Cheers! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #62

No hate. No evidence. No hero. randome Jul 2013 #64

"Two Minutes Hate" brooklynite Jul 2013 #68

Are you proud of the hate against fellow DUers you invited and inspired in this thread? DevonRex Jul 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Jul 2013 #77

+1! nt sheshe2 Jul 2013 #78

Oh please, Snowden haters ARE promoting hate, stop with trying to impose double standards AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #94

Oh you poor thing. Snowden is NOT a member here. WE ARE. SO take your namecalling DevonRex Jul 2013 #95

Believe what you want in your own little world AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #99

I don't think Devon is one of those who have been posting those type threads quinnox Jul 2013 #100

Notice that I said "a bunch of you" AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #101

yea, I know the ones you are talking about quinnox Jul 2013 #102

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This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #98

They are mentally ill, they can't help themselves Corruption Inc Jul 2013 #76

Kick� hello newbie. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #83

Yeah. Our fellow DUers think that's a fine thing to say. Doesn't DevonRex Jul 2013 #84

this entire thread, and the fact it was never locked, is fascinating in a train wreck sort of way. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #86

Just goes to show the hosts agree with it. DevonRex Jul 2013 #91

Nailed that one. nt Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #117

just wait till Manning gets sentenced, or if they ever catch Snowden... dionysus Jul 2013 #125

who were you last go round? dionysus Jul 2013 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author quinnox Jul 2013 #80

Will someone please just let me know sheshe2 Jul 2013 #81

"It's pretty obvious who you are working for.." LOL! Skraxx Jul 2013 #82

I find it interesting how noone els here cares about Obama and the NSA breaking their oath... AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #93

And of course you could have started a thread on that topic, DemocratsForProgress Jul 2013 #108

How did Herman's Hermits get involved here? Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #109

I don't hate him. I just want him in prison. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #105

BTW, I bet you all think I'm an Edward Snowden supporter, but I never really said so AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #111

Oh, and probably quite a few Snowden supporters here find the campy style AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #107

And the funny thing is that if the Snowden haters didn't respond to this thread... AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #112

You are as full of shit as you are full of yourself. era veteran Jul 2013 #116

I'm only posting this now because someone else kicked it. randome Jul 2013 #119

Nice broad brush there shawn703 Jul 2013 #121