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38. Study American history, then you will

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 OP

Then he'd be on death row right now. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #1

+10 quinnox Jul 2013 #3

He'd be alive Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #5

..which would have done him no good because he is Black. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #24

Being black is just as bad as being dead? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #39

Between this post and the others in this thread Ash_F Jul 2013 #41

Clearly, you haven't read my history Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #53

Case in Point: Woman who fired a warning shot got 20 years Xyzse Jul 2013 #47

Someone hasn't been following that case closely, I see... n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #48

Hmmm Xyzse Jul 2013 #52

I read that she went out to her car, picked up her gun and went back in Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #54

Yeah, got to read up more on it. Xyzse Jul 2013 #66

Oh, and to add to that, she shot at the wall, the bullet ricochetted into the ceiling. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #71

I don't know. Xyzse Jul 2013 #73

So I can fire all day long over the heads of schoolchildren? Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #77

Wrong Lurks Often Jul 2013 #56

Ok, guess I got some wrong Xyzse Jul 2013 #70

Warning shots are illegal and you still have some wrong Lurks Often Jul 2013 #78

"Use a gun and you're done." The minimum sentencing is only mitigated for youths. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #79

Minimum sentencing requirements I think is crazy Xyzse Jul 2013 #81

I have mixed feelings about mandatory sentences Lurks Often Jul 2013 #91

Thing is, many murderers and rapists get far too light a sentence as is. Xyzse Jul 2013 #93

Assault after retreating to rearm and reckless endangerment around children out of her home. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #60

Where could she go after her car is stuck in the garage? Xyzse Jul 2013 #72

Her sworn disposition and testimony say otherwise. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #76

Yes, I see the probable holes in her story Xyzse Jul 2013 #84

My problem is that, within the law, there's no way out for her, outside a plea. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #87

Yeah, plea deal would have probably worked better Xyzse Jul 2013 #90

Any garage door can be opened manually hack89 Jul 2013 #86

Like I said, probable holes Xyzse Jul 2013 #88

Even if she got into the car and locked the doors, she'd have a case. But... n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #92

Being on death row is just as bad as being dead BainsBane Jul 2013 #50

Still, he would have a chance Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #55

Exactly what the NRA wants you to believe. Be SCARED of the Trayvon's AND JaneyVee Jul 2013 #32

+1000 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #83

Study American history, then you will roody Jul 2013 #38

This should help: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #42

But other innocent bystanders might not maui902 Jul 2013 #46

Gov. pRick Scott would be ordering Old Sparky out of retirement! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #22

oh, bull quinnox Jul 2013 #2

Interesting read you have Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #6

I agree, we shouldn't have to live in fear catfish_nuggets Jul 2013 #51

stupid statement. neighborhood watch volunteers aren't supposed to engage. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #4

Ease my conscience? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #9

But he *did* engage...and had he thought TM was ARMED too, he would NOT have pursued LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #10

Seriously? RobinA Jul 2013 #27

I come to your city often, and it's awesome LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #31

My conscience needs no easing Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #14

kids going to 7 11 for candy should not be taking guns treestar Jul 2013 #7

I agree, now in this case, though Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #12

And by default would have been convicted ceonupe Jul 2013 #26

...and alive Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #57

How do you figure ceonupe Jul 2013 #59

So, worst case scenario, same result as now Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #62

not arguing but as a ccw holder myself i support the current restrictions ceonupe Jul 2013 #67

Most members believe in gun control here, as I do. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #68

Of course arming 17 yr olds isn't the answer. DISarming the assholes is. nt jmg257 Jul 2013 #75

Too bad Zimmerman was allowed to have a gun. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #64

Then he would have been illegally possessing a firearm. Earth_First Jul 2013 #8

Politically, no, but he would have at least the chance of living Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #11

Taking the gun versus possessing a gun are two different situations..nt Earth_First Jul 2013 #15

He has a right to protect himself nt LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #13

...not by owning a handgun illegally. nt Earth_First Jul 2013 #16

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. GZ's gun was illegal too...fat lot of good that LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #18

Indeed. nt Earth_First Jul 2013 #19

Self delete roody Jul 2013 #40

Can't wait until it ends around here. flvegan Jul 2013 #17

that, and because when half the populace is armed, and the other half is not, guess who wins, right LaydeeBug Jul 2013 #20

So, more guns then? flvegan Jul 2013 #25

That dodge don't work no more derby378 Jul 2013 #29

LOL! flvegan Jul 2013 #33

You know what's really cool? pintobean Jul 2013 #21

I wasn't gonna say anything but yea, his sig line quinnox Jul 2013 #23

Oh, so you agree he would be alive? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #58

Not at all.Your hypothetical situation pintobean Jul 2013 #63

I know, but he would have had a chance, right? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #65

You know this thread is useless? pintobean Jul 2013 #69

Have you ever wondered if... Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #97

The black helicopters pintobean Jul 2013 #101

Maybe but he would be in prison for the rest of his life n/t doc03 Jul 2013 #28

What about the SYG law? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #37

What about his race? roody Jul 2013 #45

I think you meant, what about the RACISM? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #98

Better yet, what if the child-raping, cop-assaulting woman-beater with a restraining order.... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #30

This post is pure genius. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #34

Thank you Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #36

Absolutely!! Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #35

Zardoz has spoken, everybody! MrScorpio Jul 2013 #43

Yes, why ISN'T the NRA saying if Trayvon had a gun he'd be safe?!? johnnyrocket Jul 2013 #44

There's something deeply fucked up about your logic. I'm not sure your HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #49

Would Trayvon have had a better chance of living? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #61

Since actuarial tables show that those in possession of a loaded firearm HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #74

Then when the police arrived they would have shot him n2doc Jul 2013 #80

No one would know what happened Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #82

He'd be in prison gollygee Jul 2013 #85

In this case, I think he would have got away Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #99

This 'logic' ignores the obvious question...why should he HAVE to carry a gun to be safe? renie408 Jul 2013 #89

Here you go... is this the America you want? Cronus Protagonist Jul 2013 #94

He'd be on death row right now. Apophis Jul 2013 #95

Are you serious? BklnDem75 Jul 2013 #96

he would be in prison at least for life or the Police would have shot him dead JI7 Jul 2013 #100