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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
58. Never.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013

If you think that TPTB will EVER let those that guard them be disarmed you are living in a total, utter and complete fantasy world.

Do you think the USSS is going to want to disarm in the face of the all the threats directed at POTUS plus other Federal Officials?

Do you think the mayors of major cities like NYC, Chicago, L.A. , D.C will tolerate having unarmed bodyguards?

Even if you disarmed the average cop-on the street, there is still going to be some upper level of cops that will have access to firearms just like in the UK with their "Armed Police" concept.

And the wealthy and powerful who are NOT in politics will always make sure that exceptions are written into law that will let them have armed bodyguards.

All you would end up doing is disarming the average person, which of course is the ultimate goal of the Gun Prohibitionist Movement.

Not possible, premium Jul 2013 #1
The 2A was originally set up to legalize lynch mobs Taverner Jul 2013 #3
Well, good luck with trying to get it repealed, premium Jul 2013 #9
All you need is a Supreme Court with at least 5 Justices not as bigoted/stupid as juror B37. Hoyt Jul 2013 #4
Uhhhh no, premium Jul 2013 #6
I think Hoyt's point was that a different SCOTUS might interpret the 2nd differently Orrex Jul 2013 #8
I suppose that's posssible premium Jul 2013 #12
Well... Orrex Jul 2013 #18
Thanks Orrex, you are no B37. The Supreme Court revisits decisions all the time, with slightly Hoyt Jul 2013 #24
Yeah, ok Hoyt. premium Jul 2013 #36
What do you think of "Planned Parenthood v. Casey", Hoyt? No snark, real question. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #14
The bigoted were the 4 who said we didn't have a right to a handgun Ter Jul 2013 #20
Actually, premium Jul 2013 #23
One question Ter Jul 2013 #50
In the general public, premium Jul 2013 #52
Why don't you comment on the other five jurors coming to the same conclusions. rl6214 Jul 2013 #65
Because it wouldn't fit his agenda. nt. premium Jul 2013 #67
One possible way around the 2A Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #11
You would still need to go through these steps. premium Jul 2013 #17
No I don't think it will happen Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #25
Those who covet guns will still want them. Think if Zman had stunned Trayvon, we'd still have Hoyt Jul 2013 #26
But I bet a lot of people Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #28
Could always use an ion gun. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #34
I ggogled it Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #59
Aye, you gotta be close, but no closer than a taser. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #60
Yea, I found it Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #61
Right now, pepper spray works in cases like Zman. But folks attracted to gun ads like below, Hoyt Jul 2013 #44
And they wouldn't carry that either rl6214 Jul 2013 #69
Do you even believe what comes out of your mouth? rl6214 Jul 2013 #68
I believe it was 1996 when Australia bit the bullet and passed really tough gun laws. Hoyt Jul 2013 #2
No Australia does not have a right to own guns upaloopa Jul 2013 #5
Honestly? Nah. No chance. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #7
How do you stop the resulting black market? hack89 Jul 2013 #10
Would you buy a gun on black market if illegal, being all law-abiding and stuff? Hoyt Jul 2013 #45
I was thinking more about criminal gangs and such hack89 Jul 2013 #48
If all possession of guns was made illegal... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #56
So, gun owners are law-abiding as long as they have their baby(s) and their way? Hoyt Jul 2013 #57
I reiterate: civil disobediance is a progressive concept. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #70
So all the civil disobedience over the past few days since the Zimmerman rl6214 Jul 2013 #71
Where's all the civil disobedience. You getting your guns ready, hoping for riots as an Hoyt Jul 2013 #75
Paranoid much Hoyt? premium Jul 2013 #80
"Once we have gotten the guns off the street..." Jenoch Jul 2013 #13
Oh that's a different discussion altogether Taverner Jul 2013 #30
"it will get ugly for a while". = War on Drugs part II? hack89 Jul 2013 #38
How convenient for you. Jenoch Jul 2013 #53
well atleast we got past carrying swords and spears olddots Jul 2013 #15
In many states, you can't carry a sword or spear down the street -- but a gun is fine. Hoyt Jul 2013 #46
Why would so called toters grab their weapons if all you're doing is carrying premium Jul 2013 #49
Because they are paranoid fools, who expect us to believe they won't reach for their weapon until Hoyt Jul 2013 #51
This is pure comedy gold. premium Jul 2013 #54
When you have time to spend in jail? rl6214 Jul 2013 #73
Yeah, that civil disobedience - if bigots can carry guns in public, I can carry a spear. Hoyt Jul 2013 #76
But I thought you said you were law abiding? rl6214 Jul 2013 #79
In a perfect world, perhaps. But we don't live there. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #16
+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #86
No, not possible miked62916 Jul 2013 #19
Hey my friend, how are you doing? Did you miss me the last couple days? uppityperson Jul 2013 #43
Even if you could, it would result in Civil War 2 Ter Jul 2013 #21
Meh, two nukes oughta stop em Taverner Jul 2013 #32
Logistically it would be impossible. We've way to many people to police for weapons. NightWatcher Jul 2013 #22
Too easy to make One_Life_To_Give Jul 2013 #27
Sure. Shoot everyone. Problem solved! nt valerief Jul 2013 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #31
No, and wouldn't want to The Straight Story Jul 2013 #33
Hell you can print a gun now with a 3D printer reflection Jul 2013 #35
Not really; nor should we want to... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #37
+1000. nt. premium Jul 2013 #40
If not the NRA, then there would be another group that would be just as large. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #81
I remember early in the case Zim's lawyer and brother were hailed as heroes Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #82
No. hughee99 Jul 2013 #39
When we create something more deadly and easier to use Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #41
Well since it is a thought experiment... sarisataka Jul 2013 #42
Nope. Americans like 'em too much. nt rrneck Jul 2013 #47
I have no interest in doing so. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #55
Never. MicaelS Jul 2013 #58
That's the only plan that would work and that I would whole heartedly support. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #62
Agree 100% Taverner Jul 2013 #63
"Once we have gotten all the guns off the street" rl6214 Jul 2013 #64
Like I said, this should be its own discussion, but as long as we're there... Taverner Jul 2013 #66
You still fail to get past that pesky 2A. premium Jul 2013 #72
Oh that will definitely need an amendment, one that I don't see getting passed this century Taverner Jul 2013 #74
And I do appreciate this thread, premium Jul 2013 #77
If every gun in this country was somehow magically destroyed.. MicaelS Jul 2013 #84
But, as Eddie Izzard brilliantly pointed out: Just standing there and going "bang" doesn't work Taverner Jul 2013 #85
And the criminals and major drug dealers will sell theirs back for a rl6214 Jul 2013 #78
you can't uninvent guns. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #83
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