General Discussion

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)

100. So did Cheney.

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:43 PM

Jul 2013

Cheney and Mandela: Reconciling The Truth about Cheney's Vote
http://www.commondreams.org/views/080300-102.htm

When Rep. Dick Cheney voted against a 1986 resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela and recognition of the African National Congress, Americans did know this man had been waiting decades for his freedom. In a larger sense, so had all black South Africans. The tenets of American democracy -- one man, one vote -- were denied to the majority of citizens, along with the most basic economic and educational needs.

Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.''

...

Quite a few posters here support Cheney's accusation that Snowden is a traitor. How fucked up is that?

Edit to add: There's a Cheney Snowden elementary school. What a coincidence.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6926-S-Lucas-St-Cheney-WA-99004/69729664_zpid/

4 bedrooms, 2.5 bath 2,500 sqft home located within the brand new Cheney Snowdon elementary and Westwood middle school boundary.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

104 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Gordon Humphrey is a vile piece of shit who should NEVER be praised on DU. [View all] bunnies Jul 2013 OP

Too late railsback Jul 2013 #1

Do you suppose Greenwald knew who this guy was b/4 he fawned all over him? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #5

Of course he did. And he was happy to give him the platform. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #68

Well .. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #86

Unfortunately pgr Jul 2013 #2

Bullshit. bunnies Jul 2013 #11

Get over yourself, sport.. Mopar151 Jul 2013 #20

Male bovine fecal material sarge43 Jul 2013 #42

can we at least agree with his statement that what Snowden did was right? quinnox Jul 2013 #3

no. Snowden did wrong. Whisp Jul 2013 #6

Maybe you should make a DU announcement then quinnox Jul 2013 #24

Your character assassinations play right into the hands of the Republicans. It's their program rhett o rick Jul 2013 #40

Thanks for asking, I'm gonna go with no. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #72

Dump the Hump! Mopar151 Jul 2013 #4

"Dumbest Man in Washington" supports Snowden. That is just too funny. Number23 Jul 2013 #8

I see from his bio, he pulled a Norm Coleman on you guys. He claimed to be a "liberal", and then... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #13

Formerly mine too. bunnies Jul 2013 #38

Since he was in Congress the same time as Dick Armey, that's really saying something...nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #83

The Hump is up for the challenge! Mopar151 Jul 2013 #101

ODS makes for strange bedfellows. nt stevenleser Jul 2013 #7

Y'all could at least be creative JoeyT Jul 2013 #25

It's not surprising that they steal insults from right wingers. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #43

Right wingers were saying they have ODS? Galraedia Jul 2013 #46

Bush Derangement Syndrome. JoeyT Jul 2013 #48

I saw that. The accolades couldn't come fast enough from the usual kooks. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #9

Absolutism is not how to get things done Gman Jul 2013 #10

Self-Delete. Wrong spot. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #12

Rec and kick! n/t zappaman Jul 2013 #14

Thank you for bringing this to my attention! babylonsister Jul 2013 #15

People will go to strange lengths to support their narrative. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #16

Its beyond strange... bunnies Jul 2013 #37

Maybe we've finally hit the wall here at DU. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #45

"Something is very, very wrong here." Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #98

Wow -- Just like Obama has praised Reagan and both Bushes! MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #17

shhhhhh quinnox Jul 2013 #18

This thread IS a reality check. nt bunnies Jul 2013 #22

Yes, sir! quinnox Jul 2013 #26

Ma'am. bunnies Jul 2013 #35

That's a president being presidential. zappaman Jul 2013 #19

Quite the contortionists, they are. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #23

To former presidents, even. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #30

Yeah. Its JUST like saying gays deserve aids. bunnies Jul 2013 #21

Praising war criminals is awesome. JoeyT Jul 2013 #27

Reagan called Nelson Mandela and the ANC 'terrorists'. I shit you not! - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #69

So did Cheney. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #100

It's only appropriate that these offenses against the dignity of man HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #102

I would say, "De nada," OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #103

Obama should have just called out both Bushes AND Cheney the other night. On stage! KittyWampus Jul 2013 #76

Or just not praised them. JoeyT Jul 2013 #80

Bush and Cheney are war criminals. Obama's DOJ should have PROSECUTED their criminal asses. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #97

Russell Tice (NSA whistleblower) has alleged that the NSA was HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #104

Anything He does is ok by virtue of Him doing it. JoeyT Jul 2013 #28

Bwahahahaha, a perfect summary of the pathetic spin. forestpath Jul 2013 #73

No, not "just like." Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #29

I read here that Obama 'has to do that' and that he 'has no choice'. It will be hard matthews Jul 2013 #47

no, it's not 'just like' Whisp Jul 2013 #57

That was my first thought when I saw the title to this thread. zeemike Jul 2013 #84

+1,000 n/t duffyduff Jul 2013 #90

Official function ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #91

Who is Gordon Humphrey? LittleBlue Jul 2013 #31

Here: bunnies Jul 2013 #36

I'm sure some of the Snowden worshippers here have no problem with Humphrey... SidDithers Jul 2013 #32

Much like his haters have no problem with Dick Cheney now, apparently. JoeyT Jul 2013 #50

Link? zappaman Jul 2013 #51

Apologetics for war crimes. JoeyT Jul 2013 #53

Huh? zappaman Jul 2013 #54

I didn't say there were DUers that supported him. JoeyT Jul 2013 #58

I have yet to see a DUer that did not have MAJOR problems with Dick fucking Cheney. zappaman Jul 2013 #59

He's a piece of right wing shit, but 99% of what the op about him is true also of Chuck Hagel Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #63

Let's compare ProSense Jul 2013 #89

Well that seals the deal. Hagel is just like Humphrey. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #96

I wouldn't bet on that. JoeyT Jul 2013 #66

Sorry, but I have seen no one on DU who opposes Snowden have a problem with Cheney's endorsement HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #74

+ a million quinnox Jul 2013 #77

Hell, most of them can't even bring themselves to express even the mildest disagreement with HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #82

He's a loyal Poppy Bush man, too. Another 'coincidence' for the coincidence theorists. blm Jul 2013 #33

It's quite the Machiavellian game for Jeb 2016. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #34

But...but... zappaman Jul 2013 #39

Gordon Humphrey is a vile piece of shit who.... bvar22 Jul 2013 #41

Storm Front is "right about the burgeoning Surveillance/Security/Secrecy State" ProSense Jul 2013 #62

DIck Cheney is a vile piece of shit who agrees with YOU. bvar22 Jul 2013 #75

Yes, Dick Cheney is a "vile piece of shit," which is why I'm not lauding him. ProSense Jul 2013 #79

AWESOME. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #64

I don't see where you get the idea that is what Mr. Bvar is saying. I believe he is saying that the Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #71

I get the idea from what Bvar wrote: Raine1967 Jul 2013 #81

Chuck Hagel held all the same positions as Humphrey, the OP supported Hagel for Defense Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #88

Nice red herring. Not playing that game. eom. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #92

sometimes bad people do good t hings - sometimes good people do bad things - that is life Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #44

Is this a joke? nt bunnies Jul 2013 #56

no, just a reality check. - people who know about life and have life experience know that sometimes Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #60

Humphrey is for what Snowden did meanit Jul 2013 #49

you are probably right - Republicans have no integrity - could you imagine ANY Democrat opposing Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #55

yes, exactly! hopemountain Jul 2013 #65

He's a piece of right wing shit, but 99% of what you list about him is true of Chuck Hagel as well Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #52

lol stupidicus Jul 2013 #67

Chuck's voting record in the Senate is a matter of public record. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #87

I understand, and it was a most excellent point stupidicus Jul 2013 #94

Has Chuck Hagel supported Snowden? No. Raine1967 Jul 2013 #93

right stupidicus Jul 2013 #95

An asshole is an asshole. If once in while something true accidentally spews forth from his mouth it GoneFishin Jul 2013 #61

Because some POS is in favor of something, I have to be against it? eridani Jul 2013 #70

great heaven05 Jul 2013 #78

He's a Libertarian arse Dash87 Jul 2013 #85

Thanks. David Zephyr Jul 2013 #99