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zappaman

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48. Heh.

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:29 PM

Jul 2013

BeFree to believe Snowden even though he has presented no evidence to back up his claims.
But we know you have never needed evidence to believe something, heh?

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Post here to admit you were wrong about Snowden and NSA [View all] RobertEarl Jul 2013 OP

Good luck with that. ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #1

Snowden is both brush Jul 2013 #2

Nothing changes that. liberal N proud Jul 2013 #5

He didn't. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #15

Yes, he did. When he revealed that the US had managed to penetrate cstanleytech Jul 2013 #51

The US should not be "penetrating computers" at all. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #69

Way OT, but I was reminded of a great sign I saw at an HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #86

To bad we live in the real world. nt cstanleytech Jul 2013 #114

thanks for the non-statement. Too bad logic escapes you. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #116

I didnt say I disagreed with you Civil, just that its to bad we live in the real world. cstanleytech Jul 2013 #117

I'm pretty sure ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #125

lolz Civilization2 Jul 2013 #140

That's pretty chickenshit compared to sending big chunks of US manufacturing capacity there, includi eridani Jul 2013 #99

Excellent point. n/t dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #118

Did you see the 60 Minutes ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #121

There's my thought in a nutshell. 7962 Jul 2013 #27

What do they want bad enough to try and bring down the US ? lumpy Jul 2013 #35

China already has anything we ever had that was of value -- except our land. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #73

I agree. He did a good thing but is now continuing to do bad things, pnwmom Jul 2013 #37

Which is the dog and which is the pony in that show? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #66

good question pnwmom Jul 2013 #68

yes, good question exlrrp Jul 2013 #101

I noticed a couple of posters have been absent today. Apophis Jul 2013 #3

Waiting for the new talking points to come back from focus group testing. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #41

Yep. Apophis Jul 2013 #42

It's been a bunch of Nonsense Android3.14 Jul 2013 #65

Did you miss me? randome Jul 2013 #43

You are being silly again Android3.14 Jul 2013 #98

Address the issues I listed in post #30. randome Jul 2013 #100

Sorry, kid Android3.14 Jul 2013 #102

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ bvar22 Jul 2013 #129

Address the issues I listed in post #30. That's an honest request. randome Jul 2013 #130

In other words there is no evidence, and you don't need no stinkin' evidence. bornskeptic Jul 2013 #132

Bullshit MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #4

This is your 3rd way? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #8

It is I, Third Way Manny MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #39

Do you need beer and travel money? grasswire Jul 2013 #127

Sauternes and Wall Street Money MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #128

you still have morons here that insist evo morales' plane wasn't denied airspace.. frylock Jul 2013 #6

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #10

Lol! Trying to sell piss as lemonade. The tenacity is something else and not good either n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #11

When one makes ice cream out of horse shit hootinholler Jul 2013 #17

Lol! n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #56

Not only is shit being sold as chocolate, woo me with science Jul 2013 #81

But they have the flight map! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #85

That still makes me chuckle... ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #122

Too true. nt Poll_Blind Jul 2013 #115

But...but...libertarian! Chinese spy! China hates freedom! I mean Russian spy! RUSSIA hates freedom! NuclearDem Jul 2013 #7

Yep. He had BOXES! Ahaa! RobertEarl Jul 2013 #9

You forgot he gave money to ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #12

And ratfucker n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #14

Ewwwwwwwwww.... ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #16

A certain group is certainly ratfucking here on DU... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #80

Wait a minute....pole dancing girlfriend??? I may need to do more research........ 7962 Jul 2013 #28

And here's a map that PROVES it! woo me with science Jul 2013 #82

Did someone jam Keyser Soze's phone? hootinholler Jul 2013 #13

I'll repeat a previous point ProSense Jul 2013 #18

And now Sensenbrenner is pitching in too. ucrdem Jul 2013 #22

See that ucrdem? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #25

ProSense is responding to your OP, which is "about Snowden and NSA," ucrdem Jul 2013 #29

+1000 Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #92

But here is the BEST point -- it did do something more than 2005... Pholus Jul 2013 #26

Yes, this is what is most significant, proof of the NSA's surveillance siligut Jul 2013 #83

+1000 dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #119

Dang, I thought you were making a public confession. ucrdem Jul 2013 #19

Yes. I confess RobertEarl Jul 2013 #23

Can you point out these alleged falsehoods you speak of? ucrdem Jul 2013 #24

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #52

Evidence. randome Jul 2013 #30

Heh RobertEarl Jul 2013 #36

Cite the evidence that supports the claims listed above. randome Jul 2013 #38

FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE SEE AN ACTUAL FISA WARRANT Th1onein Jul 2013 #59

Not only is it a legal warrant but the courts have ruled for decades that metadata is not protected. randome Jul 2013 #67

Let's see.....what number was that under the Apologists' Manifesto? Th1onein Jul 2013 #79

What, you deny that it's legal? randome Jul 2013 #97

I very much doubt that it's legal, except in secret interpretations of the law. Th1onein Jul 2013 #141

Don't get me started on traffic signals. NCTraveler Jul 2013 #103

What is this thing you call...'fun'? randome Jul 2013 #137

Heh. zappaman Jul 2013 #48

No evidence? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #54

Heh. zappaman Jul 2013 #55

No evidence, my ass. Th1onein Jul 2013 #61

Your denial is too complete to be reasoned with. reusrename Jul 2013 #88

Yeah, that Utah facility storing all data in the world before it's built. randome Jul 2013 #95

This stuff is just too advanced for some folks. reusrename Jul 2013 #108

I disagree with so many things in this post I don't know where to begin. dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #120

Pick one. randome Jul 2013 #131

Nope, I pick every single word dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #136

There are several useless liars here who will never admit they were wrong DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #20

I don't see anyone calling you names. Funny how that one-way street works, huh? randome Jul 2013 #31

It's a laugh riot. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #33

+1000 CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #34

Racist Paul-bots. Oh no that never happened. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #93

You're right, I have seen 'Paul-bot' applied. Not by me but by some. randome Jul 2013 #94

Not in their job descriptions either Matariki Jul 2013 #77

Not many takers huh? Oh well, not too surprising. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #21

My, how the political winds can shift Gman Jul 2013 #32

OK, I was wrong about Snowden and NSA carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #40

Not sure you'd find many pro-NSA DUers. randome Jul 2013 #47

Really? shawn703 Jul 2013 #44

Impossible, some DUers are never wrong. Rex Jul 2013 #45

*posting* NOT wrong. SNOWDEN/GREENWALD got something wrong 'bout them. n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #46

What about this? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #49

Well, I love CONYERS, and almost ALL Dems, but there's something FISHY UTUSN Jul 2013 #53

It isn't about Snowden RobertEarl Jul 2013 #58

Since this thread is back p.1, I'll respond UTUSN Jul 2013 #104

Separate the action from the actors RobertEarl Jul 2013 #106

O.K., we're at the go-our-separate-ways point, I hope amicably. I really thought I was clear UTUSN Jul 2013 #107

That's what I took from your post RobertEarl Jul 2013 #109

Gosh, not to flog a dead horse, but I SAID I NEVER separate the two and won't start now. Please. nt UTUSN Jul 2013 #112

The actor is the NSA dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #126

Snowden STOLE classified government documents, his publicly admitted crimes are felonies. Tx4obama Jul 2013 #50

You should go arrest him RobertEarl Jul 2013 #57

Incontrovertible proof that John Conyers is of the opinion cheapdate Jul 2013 #72

You're pissed now that they have the EVIDENCE to support their lawsuit, Th1onein Jul 2013 #62

RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!1 frylock Jul 2013 #63

We should boycott Russia. L0oniX Jul 2013 #75

I'm throwing my vote in with deputizing you and making you go arrest him. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #89

well, rightwingers don't have a monopoly on dishonest dumbasshood stupidicus Jul 2013 #60

I think the most interesting story is why Snowden underthematrix Jul 2013 #64

A man who has no problem with Android3.14 Jul 2013 #138

K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #70

Not one of those fuckers will ever admit they are wrong. N.T. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #71

It does appear that way RobertEarl Jul 2013 #78

How would they collect a paycheck if they conceded the talking points they're paid to be spamming?nt backscatter712 Jul 2013 #84

I was wrong. Whisp Jul 2013 #74

I was so hoping you were taking this OP in a different direction Godhumor Jul 2013 #76

Congresspeople read DU for propaganda? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #87

Snowden broke some laws, that's a given RobertEarl Jul 2013 #90

You still clutching to the "whistleblower" facade? great white snark Jul 2013 #91

Yes marions ghost Jul 2013 #105

du rec. xchrom Jul 2013 #96

I understand the sentiment and where it is coming from (I think), but I'm not HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #110

Agreed RobertEarl Jul 2013 #111

This sounds about right Android3.14 Jul 2013 #139

Post here if you've ever used two DU accounts at the same time... SidDithers Jul 2013 #113

That's all you've got? ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #124

I'm sure you made a lot of people angry with this thread Hydra Jul 2013 #123

So, lawmakers "voice doubts"? Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2013 #133

According to some posters here, those 'doubts' are the same thing as 'proof'. randome Jul 2013 #134

It is not about Snowden RobertEarl Jul 2013 #142

DURec. bvar22 Jul 2013 #135