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mfcorey1

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Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:06 AM Jul 2013

Another Stand YOur Ground in Florida [View all]

The shocking racial Stand Your Ground-related case in Port St. Joe

@MarcACaputo

As Florida’s Stand Your Ground self-defense law goes on trial in the court of public opinion, more lethal force cases – especially those involving race -- are again making national headlines.

There’s the case of Marissa Alexander, sentenced to 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot at her husband. And there’s the case of Michael Dunn, accused of first-degree murder in the July 30, 2012 shooting death of an unarmed teenager. Mother Jones branded it the "Next Trayvon Martin Case."
Here’s a shocking case has been barely mentioned: The killing of a 32-year-old black man named Everett Gant by 60-year-old Walter Butler in Port St. Joe, an old Florida Panhandle town.

Butler, who allegedly used the n-word to describe both the victim and a child in the neighborhood, is seeking immunity from prosecution under Stand Your Ground. He has a court hearing in September.

The prosecutor, Bob Sombathy, said Butler does not have much to stand on. He said Butler, charged with second-degree murder, "laid in wait" with a .22 rifle for Gant, who was coming over with a friend to discuss Butler's racist comments to a kid in the neighborhood.

"Someone opened the door and Gant shot him in the eye," Sombathy said. "There were no real words exchanged, no threats."

Sombathy said two people witnessed the incident (one inside Butler's apartment and another person with Gant). Here’s the text of the initial affidavit from the Gulf County Sheriff’s Office:
"The below signed affiant states that through his investigation and interview with the suspect, Walton Henry Butler, Butler did admit shooting Everett Gant in the head with a .22 cal. Rifle which caused series [sic] bodily injury. During an interview with Walter Butler he said he shot a “nigger.”

"There had been an incident earlier in the day when Pamela Rogers came to Butler’s apartment with a child and the defendant called the child a nigger and Ms. Rogers became upset and left the residence. Through the investigation it was learned that the defendant had made several racial remarks to the black children in the apartment complex. The victim Everett Gant went to the defendant’s residence to talk with him about the comments when he was shot. The victim Everett Gant was shot in the face causing great bodily harm he was transported to Bay Medical Center where he was listed in stable condition.

"After Walt Butler shot Everett Gant he stated he shut the sliding glass door with Everett Gant lying outside the door, called 911 then finished cooking supper, sat at the kitchen table and began eating.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/07/the-shocking-racial-stand-your-ground-case-in-port-st-joe.html#more

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The KKK's new motto: Keep it legal and white Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #1
Actually the SYG hearing is before a judge only. onenote Jul 2013 #2
Even if he loses the SYG hearing CanonRay Jul 2013 #6
+1, OR .. OR SYG will be added to the jury instructions like in the Zimmerman trial. I STILL don't.. uponit7771 Jul 2013 #12
because, as has been explained to you several times onenote Jul 2013 #24
No it hasn't been "explained" many times... and every state does not have horrid evil SYG laws uponit7771 Jul 2013 #26
No one ever said they did onenote Jul 2013 #27
how is this SYG??? it seems like he saw the guy coming towards his house ejpoeta Jul 2013 #3
marissa Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #4
The restraining order was against HIM not her..she went there to collect her babies clothes angstlessk Jul 2013 #8
stll a crime. Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #9
Can you point me to the crime ... I have googled it and found angstlessk Jul 2013 #11
personal.experience Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #20
Once again...link please..there must be a law WRITTEN down? angstlessk Jul 2013 #21
Off to greatest with you! nt raccoon Jul 2013 #5
Second degree murder? BklnDem75 Jul 2013 #7
This is going to become a daily occurence in Florida... Punkingal Jul 2013 #10
That's not stand your ground rl6214 Jul 2013 #13
Clear SYG, it doesn't matter the before or after in an SYG case... JUST what was in the persons mind uponit7771 Jul 2013 #15
still waiting for that non SYG case where it was held that the duty to avoid conflict by retreating onenote Jul 2013 #30
EVEN IF Butler doesn't "claim" syg immunity the judge HAS TO add it to jury instructions JUST like Z uponit7771 Jul 2013 #14
A clever and apropos turn of a phrase. lpbk2713 Jul 2013 #18
+1, Didn't think about that uponit7771 Jul 2013 #19
Well, if he's allowed to argue that he felt threatened, sure he may get away with it. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #16
The majority of Florida SYG cases are whites shooting whites hack89 Jul 2013 #23
Whether these people are found guilty or not, the law is obviously creating problems. renie408 Jul 2013 #17
Criminals can make any claim they want hack89 Jul 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Jul 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Jul 2013 #28
This sounds like a hate crime BainsBane Jul 2013 #29
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